Quoting Fab Stz (2025-08-15 10:25:21) > Hi, > > Le vendredi 15 ao�t 2025 09:29:18 CEST, vous avez �crit : > > Quoting Fab Stz (2025-08-14 18:44:19) > > > Dear Jonas, > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 09:19:11 +0200 Jonas Smedegaard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Source: rust-loom > > > > Version: 0.5.6-2 > > > > Severity: normal > > > > Tags: upstream > > > > > > > > Please upgrade to, or separately provide, branch v0.7. > > > > > > > > > > Do you still need this update? For which package(s)? > > > > Yes, I need this for a few packages, and the Rust team for some more: > > It is used for tests which in Debian are patched out: > > > > * async-lock > > * bytes > > * concurrent-queue > > * crossbeam-epoch > > * crossbeam-utils > > * event-listener > > * event-listener-strategy > > * oneshot > > * parking > > * sharded-slab > > * state > > * tokio > > > > This future package needs it as well: > > > > * fractal (bug#900928), transitively via async_cell > > > > > I used to need it for "state" 0.6 but dependency on loom 0.5 was patched > > > out. > > > > So in other words, you still need it, but have chosen to suppress that > > need. > > I think there is some misunderstanding. Given that loom doesn't build on all > supported debian arch but only amd64 and arm64, it was somehow decided that > this was not ideal for czkawka which is the final binay crate that depends on > "state" (which depends on loom).
Thank you for sharing. That sounds like something decided internally in the Rust team, and sadly not communicated to Debian at large. I can recommend such reasons for applying patches as DEP-3 headers to patch themselves, and/or add a README.Debian or TODO notice about such reasons for deviating from upstream. Bonus points for such notes being very brief with a link to a more elaborate explanation on the Debian wiki or some other public place, but minus points for assuming that anyone interested is a Rust team member and therefore already knew without stating anything in each affected package. > > > So you could adopt the package if you want. > > > > Thank you (finally!). > > > > > > In future, please consider pouring a bit more effort into package > > maintenance: I filed this bugreport a year ago, and have received only > > silence and then you giving up. > > As a team member, I thought you could update any package, anyway. I am a Debian developer, but not a Rust team member. > Please understand that I've started working on czkawka during the freeze of > bookworm. This required to have approx >80 packages sponsored by a DD and it > took almost 2 years to have sponsors (mostly werdahias, sylvestre and capitol > (not sure of the nick)) uploading all of them to the archive. I was granted > DM > rights on rust packages on 2025-06-28, so less than 2 months ago. I think you > understand what all that means. My criticism is targeted the plural "you": The Rust team, collectively, who is listed as maintainer for the loom package where my bugreport has seen no response for a year. Sounds like you are doing a lot of exciting work on Rust packaging - I wish you all the best with that. I don't see how any of that work is a blocker for you or anyone else in the Rust team responding to my bugreport much, much sooner, however. > I prepared multiple NEW packages that are required to update czkawka to 9.0. > I > haven't uploaded them all to master yet. Right now there are at least 7, and > more will come. But if you feel like willing to sponsor/upload them, please > do. See ./dev/list-rfs.sh. You could then give me DM upload rights for these > packages. I am happy to team up with you, if you are interested in that. Our collaboration would not be reduced to me granting you upload rights or me rubber-stamping packaging solely done by you, however. It would also not be done in a giant efficient-for-the-team git repo, but in efficient-for-Debian-developers-in-general project-specific git repos. I might sound like a stubborn narrowminded old fart - I sure hope that is not the case, but perhaps I really am - if curious but want a second opinion then perhaps ask Blair Noctis, whom I collaborate with for some Rust packages. Happy hacking, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ * Sponsorship: https://ko-fi.com/drjones [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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