Alexander Schories said:
>
> Which webservers DO ACTUALLY *REQUIRE* zts and why exactly? Please
> explain.

caudium, threaded models (which is all but one) of apache2, roxen (if we
were to build for it, which we might in the future).

> Steve, even ZENDs - "the php company" own prducts, like the Zend
> Platform, DO NOT support ZTS !!!

This is patently untrue.  You can't run the non-ts module with a ts PHP,
but that doesn't mean they don't support both.  Re-run their little
installer, and it'll happily install a threadsafe "zend_extension_ts" for
you.

> The Zend Platform wont even work with an apache2 threaded environment! So
> there is no real use for zts as well. Please read the details ZEND
> explains..

Where is this "explained"?

> The same issue for the gpl project: eaccelerator (the TurckMMcache
> successor).

Again, untrue.  turck-mmcache works with ZTS enabled.  Of course, you need
to build it for ZTS, and use "zend_extension_ts" in your php.ini.

> And PDFlib, as reported by Kasper Schoonman.

I have a feeling Kasper is confused about the difference between a library
and language bindings for that library.  Odds are that php4-pdf (or
whatever it would be called if we built it, which we don't) supports ZTS
just fine.  That no one has precompiled binaries built is hardly a big
issue.

> One more time: ZTS IS EXERIMENTAL - even the compile flag is called that
> way!!

Tell that to thousands of IIS users who've been unknowingly beta testing
it for the last several years.  Trust me.  ZTS itself WORKS FINE.  The
only real problems that can arise are from using non-reentrant libraries,
and even then, only when running with a threaded webserver.  So, if you
don't want any problems, keep using the same non-threaded webserver you've
been using, and stuff will continue to work.  Fancy.

> ZTS-OFF *is* currently standard.

Windows is currently standard.  I'd prefer not to switch to it just
because my hardware upstream tells me so.

... Adam




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