Em Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:31:15 +0200 Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Thank you for the information above. I have two questions about this: > > First, I would gladly fix the br.ispell package if I knew how to do > it. Do you know how to integrate your changes into the br.ispell > sources?
I think it's necessary to edit the file br.ispell-3.0~beta4/verbos. But I don't know what would be the consequences because conjugue has a complex algorithm and it does more than just following the instructions from the "verbos" file. Simply fixing a few orthographic mistakes is simple, and might not have an unexpected negative impact on ibrazilian and wbrazilian, but many problems need changing the paradigms, and perhaps creating new ones. I attached a file with few changes to eight verbs, but probably others could be fixed as easily. For the verb "estrear", perhaps it would be necessary to create a new paradigm, as I did for GConjugue. What about BrOffice project? I think it has a similar goal: http://www.broffice.org/verortografico > Second, I tried to verify some of your changes and found incoherent > information over the web. For instance, for the verb "estrear" you > propose oin your patch: > > @@ -6516,17 +6516,17 @@ > quando vós estreardes > quando eles estrearem > Imperativo Afirmativo > - estreia tu > - estreie ele > + estréia tu > + estréie ele > estreemos nós > estreai vós > - estreiem eles > + estréiem eles > Imperativo Negativo > - não estreies tu > - não estreie ele > + não estréies tu > + não estréie ele > não estreemos nós > não estreeis vós > - não estreiem eles > + não estréiem eles > Infinitivo Pessoal > por estrear eu > por estreares tu > > However, several conjugation engines on the web [1] do not follow > you. Is there any authoritative source we can rely on? > > [1] http://www.conjuga-me.net/verbo-estrear > http://linguistica.insite.com.br/cgi-bin/conjugue?verbo=estrear > http://www.fpepito.org/utils/conjugue.php?verbo=estrear > http://www.priberam.pt/dlpo/dlpo.aspx > http://www.verbix.com/cache/webverbix/2/estrear.shtml Thank you for the information about the verb "estrear". I might have made mistakes while revising the database of verbs, and all reports of problems are welcome. According to the "Dicionário Eletrônico Houaiss da Língua Portuguesa" (2002), and the "Dicionário Aurélio Eletrônico Século XXI" (1999), I correctly added the acute accents to "estrear". Perhaps in Portugal the accents are not used in this case. This would explain why some websites conjugate the verb differently. priberam.pt is from Portugal, as the .pt indicates. conjuga-me.net seems to be Portuguese (it uses the word "ficheiro" in its "Política de Privacidade"). I don't know in what country is verbix based. linguistica.insite and fpepito are front-ends to conjugue. Although they do not do any reference to brazilian-conjugate, the output of conjugue is the same (including the expression "# paradigma deduzido: passear (irregular)"). Thus, we cannot rely on them to check either conjugue or gconjugue. I think a good grammar would be even more reliable than both Aurélio and Houaiss, but I didn't check one. Best, Jakson
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