Hi, Ming Hua

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:05:55PM -0500, Ming Hua wrote:
> I can reproduce this, however it's not a bug in scim per se, but rather
> the expected behaviour with no special settings for scim.
> 
> When you say that scim works in C locale, did you ever really try to use
> it to input Chinese (instead of, say, just press Ctrl-space and see the
> panel).  On most applications input method won't work in C locale, the
> only exception I know is gedit.

Yes, I tried inputing Chinese in Gimp, Firefox, Gnome Terminal, and
didn't experience any problem.

> The reason for such behaviour is that with C or en_US locale, the GTK IM
> module will be "scim" since you have scim-gtk2-immodule installed.  In
> such case scim will be automatically started in GTK2 applications,
> therefore you can see the scim panel when pressing Ctrl-space.
> 
> However in a zh_CN locale, the GTK IM module will be "xim".  In such
> case you can still use scim, but it won't be automatically started.  To
> use scim with XIM, you need to set XMODIFIERS environment variable, and
> start up scim manually (or in some startup scripts, ~/.gnomerc for
> example).

OK, I get it. However, I believe the following two features are very
much needed to make Debian an easy-to-use Chinese desktop environment:

- Chinese input works by default (no manual configuration required),
  provided that a Chinese input server is installed.
- Easy selection of a default Chinese input engine when there are two or
  more installed.

> All these configuration details are well written in
> /usr/share/doc/scim/README.Debian.gz.  Please read that document
> carefully.  If you still have questions, please follow up this bug.

Thanks for the pointer. I should have read it before reporting this bug.
Among the various alternative methods described in the README, running
"set-m17n-env" as a normal user is the simplest solution to my problem.

> > I first noticed this problem when upgrading one machine from woody to
> > sarge, and reproduced it in another machine using the above fresh
> > installation procedure.
> 
> I don't really understand this, since scim and related package are not
> in woody at all.  How can you have this problem when upgrading from
> woody to sarge?  Maybe scim is pulled in by Chinese localization task?

Yes, I installed scim by installing the Chinese localization tasks.

Wenzhuo



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