Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Sunday, den 11. December 2011: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:10:07PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > I was working on this bug and I detected the non openess part. And I > > have to say that I strongly disagree in making this list non-public. > > > > Am I the only one that don't likes this? > > Thanks for working on this bug report and for mentioning this, it's > indeed important that we discuss this part. I've three comments in > reply to your inquiry to advance this discussion: > > 1) how is the non-openness of this request any different from the > listmaster@lists.d.o mail alias (or many others that we have in many > @*.debian.org domains, fwiw) that Cord has Cc:-ed? > > (Note: as I've mentioned recently, I'm generally *against* those > aliases, but I'm even more against double standards) Imho its an administrative alias, where also private stuff (complaints against lists arrive). I don't see where this is comparable to a lists that discusses a specific use case of Debian.
> 2) I haven't asked anything which is not allowed by the mailing list > template at <http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list> > . Should it be amended? There are good reasons for closed lists. Like debian-admin. But due to the openess of our project we always try to limit the creation of this type of lists. > > 3) I've addressed your point in my request: > > > FWIW, I don't think this is at stake with Debian openness. For me this > > list is just Debian offering list hosting to actors who want to help > > Debian in venues that Debian Project members are not able or willing > > to pursue by themselves. > > and I believe it answers your point. If you don't think it is the > case, can you explain why? Imho it is a public topic where everybody should be able to take part in. Especially if companys invest money into Debian I want to know if this happens. We saw at dunc tank how destructive money may be. But anyhow, that is for this specific case. I think that everything that affects the development of debian should be open. I read your explanation a few times and I still fail to understand why this should be a reason. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
