On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Georges Khaznadar
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Andres, I wish you a happy new year!

Hello Georges, Happy new year to you as well!

> The release dated 29/12/2011 is currently located in the subdirectory
> sources/old_versions/

Ah, I see. They must have just released that newer version.

> the directory http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/ provides some files
> which were uploaded more recently (20/01/2012).
>
> My guess is that I should use either
> http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/kicad-2012-01-19-BZR3256-stable-UBUNTU_10.10_full_with_components_doc.tgz
> or
> http://iut-tice.ujf-grenoble.fr/cao/kicad_sources-2012-01-19-BZR3256-stable.zip
>
> Those archives are very different in size (201 MB, 13.4 MB) and their
> size is different from the size of the archive wich was packaged for
> wheezy last time (97 MB).
>
> Which archive should I consider? Have you some documentation summarizing
> the changes, and specially the changes in the components set, and the
> embedded documents? I rememeber that there have been a few license issues
> in the past about sourceless documents.

I think we should contact upstream about this in particular. I'm
registered in the kicad-users mailing list. I'll try to send a
message, but perhaps it should be you since you know exactly which
parts are troublesome. I am afraid without the components, kicad will
be severely hindered in usability.

> ... hmmm.
>
> I browsed both archives in a viewer.
>
> - The biggest one comes with sourceless executable binaries, many
>  documents and resources.  Only a few documents come with a clearly
>  declared license (for example French documents are correctly
>  licensed), and tracking the ownership and the licenses in components
>  appears as quite impossible.
>
> - the smaller archive unfolds into a directory KiCad-sources. This one
>  has a valid documentation about ownership and licensing.
>
> I think that I should split the packaging effort in two: make the
> package for KiCad's programs now, and begin an ITP (Intention To
> Package) for a second package, probably named kicad-common or
> kicad-share, based on
> kicad-2012-01-19-BZR3256-stable-UBUNTU_10.10_full_with_components_doc.tgz
>
> For the second package, I shall remove many stuff due to license
> incertitude, and repack its source into a file
> kicad-common_2012.01.19+dfsg1.orig.tar.gz, the suffix "dfsg1" standing
> for "in application of the Debian Free Software Guidelines", which
> preclude the distribution of sourceless or ill licensed materials.
>
> Do you agree with such a proposition?

I agree with your proposition. The truth is I was not aware kicad was
shipping all these sourceless and undocumented components. I guess
they must have removed them from the kicad-sources package, and that's
why it got substantially smaller in size.



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