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On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 01:59:31PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
>severity 457177 serious
>thanks
>
>* Jonas Smedegaard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [071221 19:54]:
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 08:11:21PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
>> >i hate myself inflated bugs, but if you had have a look at
>> >the cited points you'd agree on the severity.
>> 
>> We do not (in this bugreport) have a dispute over severity of those bugs 
>> that you listed. I did not even comment on them (as you seem well aware) 
>> but instead requested that you refer to the bugreports, as discussing 
>> severity of each bug is best done at those other bugreports.
>> 
>> Our disagreement here is on severity of *this* bug, which I interpret as 
>> a metabug claiming that "this package generally have too many too severe 
>> bugs". Please correct me if I somehow misunderstood the nature of the 
>> bug raised with this bugreport.
>
>
>Unfortunatly, I have to agree from a release team POV (i.e. speaking
>with my Release Manager hat on) with maks on the general status of the
>package, especially as maks spoke with his kernel arch maintainer hat
>on (so his remarks shouldn't be lightly waived away).

Waive away?

this bugreport is about accumulation of bugs together raising severity 
of the package in generalm right?

I requested to separate specifics, by referring to bugreports related to 
the issues raised (or, obviously, file bugreports if not reported 
already).

There are several reasons for this request:

  * Original bugreporters of each issue, and participants in discussions 
surrounding each bug, are included in this renewed discussion - but only 
in the parts of the discussion relevant to them

  * It is easier (for me, at least) to keep track at the various parts of 
the discussion if not muddled together.



>One might discuss about the adequate severity of the individual bugs,
>but they together makes this package RC buggy. (Perhaps even some of the
>individual bugs make it - we can discuss that at the individual bug
>reports if wanted.)

Yes, please do!



>But there are some cases like "brutal hardcoding -
>breaks ony every new linux image either due to /proc, /sys or
>/boot/config hardcoded parsing see #443821 for the latest 2.6.23
>variation" which are *not* fixed by adjusting to the current kernel, but
>we expect some flexibility and robustness as long term strategy.

I shall fork this as a separate bugreport, and comment on it there.



>This isn't a final opinion on yaird, but please don't lower the severity
>of this bug report until either this bug is fixed also in the opinion
>of the bug reporter, or someone from the release team agrees to lowering
>the severity.

I shall respect your judgement representing the release team.



  - Jonas

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