On September 6, 2014 10:08:50 PM CEST, Per Andersson <avtob...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Stas Zytkiewicz <s...@childsplay.mobi> wrote:
>>
>> > and are also probably sampled from Pacman
>> > /usr/share/childsplay/CPData/PackidData/waka.wav
>> > /usr/share/childsplay/CPData/PackidData/walk.wav
>>
>> Not true, it's of course inspired by the pacman sound but the length
>of
>> the 'waka'
>> is 0.17 seconds and the length of the 'walk' is 0.08 second and are
>> sound effects.
>> It's not the original pacman sound and I'm surprised that someone
>would
>> think those
>> very tiny sounds files could be the original pacman sounds.

Please answer me this question.
How can you claim that those files are copies or samples of the original pacman 
sounds ?
If you had actually listen to them it would have been obvious that they are 
sound effects played in a loop.

So how can i take your claims seriously?

Shouldn't you provide some evidence when claiming a file isn't free when it 
isn't as obvious like the 'feelgood' file?
(That file should never been part of childsplay in the first place.)

>>
>> > * A sound from The Simpsons, where Homer shouts wohoo. Classic
>sound
>> >  byte, but non-free
>> >
>> > /usr/share/childsplay/CPData/wahoo.wav
>>
>> Not true, it's an recording of *me* shouting wohoo and then altered a
>bit
>> with audacity filters.
>
>Are you for real?
I beg your pardon ?!

It *is* me you hear.
There are more sounds recorded by me in the package.
But i feel I'm getting in a no win situation, when i tell you the origin of a 
file and then you just mock me and calling my statement false.
Why don't you treat me with a little respect ?

>
>It seems that you don't care about software being free, just copying
>whatever comes around. Is that the case?

Do you realize what you just said?
Are you calling me a thief just now ?

I've tried to make sure that the media content is free but you can never be 
100% sure. 
(And that's the only valid point you make and i address that and what that 
means for childsplay further below.)

I don't understand what i have done to you to receive these kinds of insults.
I do care a lot about free software, again I feel insulted by your claims and 
how you state your opinions as facts and your arrogance.
Why do you communicate like this, you only alienate people from you.

I consider myself a free software developer for the last 25 years or so.
I've managed to get the companies I worked for to release large portions of 
their source code and artwork under the GPL.
I have spend many hours working for the OLPC project.
I am or was involved in number of other free software projects over the years. 
Everything in my spare time and for free as in free beer.

So don't you tell me i don't care about free software.
Please come down from your high horse and realize that maintaining a bunch of 
packages in a distro is nothing more than repackaging other people's work and 
doesn't mean your the only one caring about free software.

>
>Childsplay is marked for autoremoval from testing on october fifth,
>if this bug is not resolved. [1]

Pease do remove childsplay from the repository as I don't want to have  to deal 
with people like you who seems to know it all but fail to provide proof of 
their accusations
I can't defend me against accusations which seems to be based, for the most 
part, more  on your arrogant assumptions and opinions than on proof.

>In a larger perspective, Savannah seems to require that the project
>can be licensed under a free software license. [2] I don't see how
>this project complies with that at all that.

This is a valid point and i will refrase the 'COPYING' file which states that 
all the media files fall under the gpl 3.
If that means childsplay has to be removed from Savannah so be it.

>
>
>[1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/childsplay
>[2] http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/LicensingRequirements/
>
>
>--
>Per

Regards,
Stas Zytkiewicz


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