On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Stas <s...@childsplay.mobi> wrote: > > > On September 10, 2014 1:13:39 AM CEST, Per Andersson <avtob...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>(Adding the maintainer to Cc directly.) >> >>Hi! >> >>First of all, I am sorry that I insulted you Stas; please accept my >>sincere apology and accept my full respect onwards. > > > Thank you Per and apologies accepted.
Great, thank you! >>Secondly, great that you replaced Vault boy and I Feel Good! >>Thanks. >> >>Third, this package needs a debian/copyright file that lists the >>copyright for all files correctly. (If you wish to help the maintainer >>with this Stas that would be great!) > > I feel that it would be very difficult to come up with such a list due to > the fact that a number of games and their associated 'media' files are > created by different people and it's not always clear where the files come > from. Some of the games are 6 years or more old and some of the original > authors aren't easily found anymore. (Students for example) > I always asked the people to make sure the files they included were free but > it's near impossible to make sure they are or where they come from. > I also tried to make sure I never used non-free files and when something is > placed in the public domain or comes from another project that has stated it > was free to use I assumed they were unless someone would say otherwise. > > I have always had a piece of text inside the 'in game' copyright text > stating that when somebody thought some media file wasn't free they should > contact me and I would remove it immediately. > It has always been enough these last 10 years. And I never had any problems > with it as people understood the problems with these files and claims. (It > happened only twice in 10 years) > It's very difficult or near impossible to be sure about every media file in > projects like this. There are many people/websites/games claiming copyright > or no copyright on the same mediafile which makes it impossible to know who > is right. If it has worked for the package then I think it could also continue to work in the future (to have such a notice in game and act whenever something is raised). > As I said, I can never be 100% sure everything inside childsplay is free, > that was a valid point you made, so I assume it can never be part of the > Debian distro. > That was my reason to ask you to remove it. > I will also refrase the claim that everything is under the gpl and move the > childsplay package from savannah to github or back to sourceforge. I think it is better to keep the GPL license for everything and, as you have done, resolve issues if they arise. The package will still be in unstable, and, when this bug is resolved, it will migrate to testing again. >From my point of view thus bug can be closed with a new release (depending on the sample from samplephonics). A side-track: archive.org has a truly massive list of free audio content. (Some content is not licensed properly though, so some care needs to be taken when using stuff.) >> >>[Stas] >>> It's replaced with a free sample from the "freebies" section of >>> http://www.samplephonics.com >> >>My concern is that these samples are not free as in DFSG free. > > I know, I've contact them to ask if the license also applies to their > 'freebies' section as it's not very clear. > I haven't yet received a reply. That is great! > But again, please remove childsplay from Debian as I can never be sure about > every file inside childsplay. > It's a problem with many programs that have a lot of graphics and sounds. > I'm sure that if you looked closely to similar programs you can find files > of questionable origin. This is the fact with many packages in Debian, the issues are resolved as they come by. > Btw, childsplay is since 2013 in 'maintenance mode' and the next version > will be a mobile/tablet version. Ok. -- Per -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
