Hi Marco,

On Thu, Jul 09, 2026 at 02:29:13PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> In theory, yes. In practice, there is no upgrade path because varnish and
> vinyl-cache use different configuration files.

I agree that this is more of the theoretical kind, but I also am pretty
certain that you can craft upgrade scenarios that make this happen.

> Do you REALLY think that it is better to add 8 archive-wide package
> relationships which will burden everybody than ignoring a theoretical corner
> case for packages with popcon < 5?

On a cost vs benefit tradeoff, yes, I do. The cost of these
Breaks+Replaces is fairly low. The benefit is that we can tackle
undeclared file conflicts exhaustively and do not need to have an
exception list of file conflicts that we believe cannot happen until
they happen for real. The real goal here is to have no undeclared file
conflicts at all.

> > > The varnish-* packages will be removed from the archive in a few days.
> > Are you saying that varnish will be removed from trixie?
> It will be removed from unstable.

Then yes, please do add those relations.

Helmut

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