On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:53:42PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > It hasn't happend yet. You have to understand that rejections at the > DAM stage are quite rare; most applications are rejected at the AM > stage (and most of them because the applicants don't have enough time > or interest, not because of philosophical or technical problems).
I understand, but they happen, and i think this to be a not-so-open point in our open structure. DAM discussion with applicants (and vice-versa) should be open for reading (as well as discussion with keyring and ftpmasters, archived or not archived). Indeed there is the issues about rejection being public, which should be also covered. It makes sense to me that poeple being rejected (at any level) would not like this to be known. In another mail you also say: > So what's exactly the problem you're trying to solve? The da-manager > alias is archived and if a "complain[sic] pops up" someone can surely > get access to the archive to see what happened. Although, if the > complaint is a lack of response, you surely wouldn't find anything > in the archive, would you? But if i do not a good job anyone can read my bug reports (actually there are a lot of people reading reports to my packages); if i do not reply to reports, fix bugs, be active for a while, i can become MIA, my packages be orphaned and eventually i can resign (or be forced to). On my side (a simple maintainer) evrything i do is under control, and open: people on some keypoints in Debian structure do not have the same treatment. Not being as open as the rest of Debian is one of the reasons they are falmed. Please, I don't want people NMUing keyring/ftpmasters/dam job. The concept is indeed the same. Of course if the do not reply mails i would not find anything, but being subscribed i could read directly what happen, or be aware of the fact that nothing happens. Haveing a list for DAM does not makes sense? Make DAM discuss _evrythig_ or be publically contacted (for example about status reporting) on -newmaint. Trust is not a transitive property: i trusted you as DPL, this does not mean i trust your delegates. I'd like to know what they do, when they do something for Debian. ciao, -- Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis | Elegant or ugly code as well aliases: Luca ^De [A-Z][A-Za-z\-]*[iy]'\?s$ | as fine or rude sentences have Luca, a wannabe ``Good guy''. | something in common: they local LANG="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" | don't depend on the language.