-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | How could we know ? We know nothing about Ubuntu, nothing about > | Canonical, nothing about the goals, nothing about how everything was > | done to begin with, nothing about who works or doesn't work there. > > That, sir, would be entirely the fault of yourself. It's three clicks > from the front page of canonical.com what the goals of Ubuntu is. > It's well documented on the www.ubuntu.com pages. About who works or > doesn't work there, well, though it's not secret, it's not like the > company roster is publically available. A lot of the names should be > easy to pick out, though. For $DEITY's sake. Will you please understand that the Ubuntu folks totally failed to inform their fellows about what was going on ? And at the time, there was no Canonical website, no Ubuntu website. Only a handful of patches up on no-name-yet. I think we deserved a better explanation. > I don't think accusing the Ubuntu developers of hiding information is At the time of no-name-yet, they *were* hiding information. > fair. I don't think most Debian developers would be happy if the > Ubuntu developers forced more information down their throats -- just > look at how unhappy people got by jdub posting his «ubuntu blog > updates» to a feed which ended up on planet debian. I have no problem with posts about what's going on at Ubuntu, be it on Planet or on -devel or on -custom (I don't read -custom, but I could start) or wherever. > | How are we supposed to trust you ? I certainly can't until this is > | fixed. > > You can look at the processes as documented on the Ubuntu web site. I found out, thanks. > There's not much we can do to make you trust us, saying «please trust > us, we're nice» is a no-op. You can look at what the Ubuntu > developers are doing and make your own judgements. Ask on the lists, > ask on IRC. I don't think posting Ubuntu material to Debian lists is > in any way appropriate. I have no problem whatsoever about working with the Ubuntu folks, and you know it, btw :) I never refused to work with someone. I never refused a good patch. I never killfiled anyone. Debian is a teamwork, and I'm playing in the team as much as I can. That's not true of everybody. JB. - -- Julien BLACHE - Debian & GNU/Linux Developer - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Public key available on <http://www.jblache.org> - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFCNrmvzWFP1/XWUWkRAg2RAKDGiflyjFM1v6psZh2QilFHbNrwSgCgpwxf nKUJ/f0DScAhXllo46epu5I= =r1x4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]