-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 03/30/2014 01:17 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/30/2014 02:51 AM, Jan Gloser wrote: > >> Otherwise if you just personally disagree with the design of >> systemd and can't describe such a scenario, why not just migrate to >> Gentoo or BSD? > > This has been said a 100 times... > > There's no need to migrate away. systemd is not (and will not be) > mandatory in Debian in the foreseeable future. Your can continue to > use sysv-rc (or OpenRC, file-rc, Upstart...) if you like. The TC > decision is *only* about the *default* init system. In past discussions, one of the apparently largest things I've seen cited as a benefit of switching to systemd has been that it's much more cost-effective in terms of developer/maintainer time and effort to maintain systemd unit files than to maintain traditional init scripts. If it's been decided to continue to require package maintainers to provide traditional init scripts as well as systemd unit files - e.g. for Debian's non-Linux ports - then that benefit would be lost. If it hasn't, then I think it's entirely foreseeable that package maintainers will at some point stop providing traditional init scripts. At that point, unless a means of producing init scripts from unit files (which, last I heard, had been judged impossible) has been found, the amount of work required to continue to run sysvinit would be far more than the terminology of "changing the default" implies. To be doing more than changing the default here is not necessarily a bad thing, but we shouldn't be pretending that changing the default is all that's happening, unless choosing something other than the default really is - and, barring another project-wide decision, is expected to indefinitely continue to be - as simple as installing one set of packages rather than another. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTOAfCAAoJEASpNY00KDJrsokP/3CHawcLrnZ9S3RcyOmzIBxP NRbQ+bjxDGlojjaN8eqRjFvfMG5K6g73WOCmDektjL/zUh6y2YTL12H8LFE7sRdE /e2rKnXt+OELKedJf/KERAk/d/ei9E8ZBb/iDiMuUvTgcFvO2Ll+Dq9PmveBJ4+C Lz1dM/MBjDkJUXHAgRnbIT6btIQwfunD7iR1PrtPsYG5oUtB6b9RsN6b8Z4ky1Yi kbEZC9nXKjrt2WEj6s4VUZkVd84xEym3302BeeXtToWv/86j/GbXvTKI+9mxi/Is jxvlxzjInJbIvP17CyMrkzwqoD2HEoUDU+iAM9VlBskaEI+ygNOaI0liiw6L9FyT 6cfYk74YJ8IEGjotKwpzIamSv8WA1YQl6YYD9LgL7bvPS1ubW2rIKx1zpOlpoTPx 0FwBXji4mxrCWB//maLiUYrI6yh+FGE0srhrS7Om7aNrj/2rsf8M5N5L2xXO7rVH Gyu35ct1wCxlp1V8VWAFStEYYxs0MKE+0wumUROlRMh9ghu7NNVjeMxCql61SLz4 ZFOCeY+ppj2BvYWm5DRVnv0Ww5dfKHyh7PnZUZ8qu3pDGywzaFyWJOakb5R1O4I5 WBRU3PuaxukK5xOx8t8Fy/vXkvSANLvfEgIUyh5lzW2c0Vy4L8CL2VV0R6BOYqT9 /gesSs527WT6pET3tFL4 =O6Cx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/533807c2.1020...@fastmail.fm