On 24/02/2026 20:07, Russ Allbery wrote:
To try to make this somewhat productive, I will offer one positive
suggestion: If there are people who are willing to do the work to create
images designed explicitly for the free hardware movement, that are
intentionally pushing the boundaries of what software support can be
dropped if one is running the most free hardware available, I personally
have no objection to seeing a pure blend created for that purpose. I only
object to the name.

Getting productive and towards a possible implementation, seeing that some 
parts of the discussion are migrating to actionable steps:
See my mail earlier [1]. It would be relatively easy to add another image to 
the list of official distributed live images. Such image could contain the same 
set of packages as a regular image, with the difference that non-free-firmware 
will not be enabled.

The alternative I'd offer is the Debian for Libre Hardware, or some
variation on that. I think adding the word "hardware" avoids the ambiguity
and other implications, and indicates that the purpose of the blend is to
support the free (libre) hardware movement.

I can add another image to the list of images, but I would need your input: which 
desktop environment should be offered (I still think that we should offer 
initially only one DE) and how should it be named? -> 'Debian for Libre 
Hardware' as proposed here?
How to avoid that people with hardware that requires non-free-firmware (my 
unfounded guesstimate: more than 90% of the downloads) download this version 
and then blame Debian for not being able to run on their hardware? The current 
text is at located at various places: [2][3][4]

I can help in getting the images built, but need your (i.e. Debian's) help in 
writing the documentation/accompanying texts and for selecting the appropriate 
targets.

With kind regards,
Roland Clobus

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2026/02/msg00516.html
[2] https://get.debian.org/images/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
[3] https://get.debian.org/images/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
[4] https://www.debian.org/distrib/

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