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http://www.adonweb.com/business/jeans.html At 06:33 PM 6/26/98 -0400, Adam P. Harris wrote: >Ardo van Rangelrooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> First of all, I support you as the DDP co-ordinator. > >Oliver, I second you as well. Not that there's really a voting issue >about it.. > >> So, I'm orphaning all the manuals with my name as maintainer. > >Ardo, yes a good idea. > >> This >> includes the meta manual, user's manual, the sysadmin manual, the >> netadmin manual, the dictionary, and the book suggestions list. The >> user's manual should be renamed to reference guide. > >Geeze I'm almost tempted to take that and outline it and then orphan >it. That would be slash-n-burn though wouldn't it. > >> For the book >> suggestions list and the dictionary Christian had the idea of making >> them web-based in the sense that anybody could submit new entries for >> them, provide updates of existing entries, etc. > >The Faq-o-matic is like that (although I couldn't help feeling that it >still needs agressive maintenance, i.e., taking good questions from >debian-user and populating the faq-o-matic). I think that's a good >idea, but don't fool yourself into thinking that a faq-o-matic >arrangement means it's maintenance-free. > >> We already talked about some design issues, but it got never beyond >> that point. I hope all of them get suitable parents. :-) > >We can hope. > >> "Oliver Elphick" <[email protected]> writes: >> > Since I have volunteered to take over the job of co-ordinator that has been >> > made vacant by Christian Schwarz's departure, I had better explain what I >> > think needs doing, so that you can all decide if you want me to do it. >> > >> > 1. Move the DDP webpages onto a Debian machine (www.debian.org?); ask >> > Christian to alter the page at his site to point to the new location. >> > Add Havoc's Debian Tutorial to the pages. > >Yes, and mark as orphaned what is orphaned. > >> > 2. Move the documentation source onto a Debian machine. Get from Ardo >> > or have people resubmit any contributions they have already made >> > and make sure that they are published. > >You should tolerate heterogeny. I.e., robert wants to keep source on >his own machine, and I guess manually update you; eventually he will >move to CVS. > >I think you should gently encourage *everyone* to use cvs.debian.org >but not make it a requirement. > >> > 3. Make packages of the various manuals, as soon as they contain any >> > reasonable amount of material. > >I think this is kinda a big job, no? Do you really want to do this? >I think you could still be quite useful w/o being the actual packager >of the various manuals. I'm worried you'll get too bogged down. > >> > 4. Arrange for people to be able to upload material and have it appear >> > in the development version. > >Development version of what? > >> > I'm not sure of the merits of using cvs to do this, because I think that >> > only the original author and the editor should be changing text. Is it >> > possible to arrange cvs with limited permissions? [Each chapter owned by >> > its author, and in the documentation group; only the editors are group >> > members; all document sources have 664 permissions.] > >Certainly. > >There's another reason cvs is useful: contributors can be assured of >patching off the *very latest* version. So it's revision control and >software distribution in that sense. > >> > Ideally there >> > should be some kind of server that accepts submissions from authors, >> > incorporates them and runs a make of the HTML documentation, and (on >> > success) copies the HTML and SGML onto the website. > >Yes, it looks like James will help you there. > >> > Any material submitted should either appear on the website or be rejected >> > within a week. Reasons for rejection would mainly be that the SGML fails >> > to generate output; other circumstances are conceivable but would (I hope) >> > never arise! > >This reminds me of the linux patch page at >http://samba.anu.edu.au/linux-patches/ (isn't Jitterbug a .deb yet?). > >I think it's outside your scope as document coordinator to enforce >this for the documents themselves, although you might provide some >sort of infrastructure for doc maintainers to use for kicks. Don't >get too ambitious here, though, let's keep it simple. > >> > Any errors in content should become apparent if submissions are published. >> > If an author fails to correct an error quickly, I would expect to do it >> > myself, to avoid misleading readers. If any dispute arises, it would >> > ultimately go to the Technical Committee. > >Sounds good. > >Maybe it's my confusion, but I think you need a quick statement of the >*scope* of your duties. > >-- >.....A. P. 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