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http://www.adonweb.com/business/jeans.html At 05:51 PM 6/26/98 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Thank you for your mail. >We are in the Jeans, please remove our name from you mailing list >Thank you > >http://www.adonweb.com/business/jeans.html > > > >At 06:33 PM 6/26/98 -0400, Adam P. Harris wrote: >>Ardo van Rangelrooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> First of all, I support you as the DDP co-ordinator. >> >>Oliver, I second you as well. Not that there's really a voting issue >>about it.. >> >>> So, I'm orphaning all the manuals with my name as maintainer. >> >>Ardo, yes a good idea. >> >>> This >>> includes the meta manual, user's manual, the sysadmin manual, the >>> netadmin manual, the dictionary, and the book suggestions list. The >>> user's manual should be renamed to reference guide. >> >>Geeze I'm almost tempted to take that and outline it and then orphan >>it. That would be slash-n-burn though wouldn't it. >> >>> For the book >>> suggestions list and the dictionary Christian had the idea of making >>> them web-based in the sense that anybody could submit new entries for >>> them, provide updates of existing entries, etc. >> >>The Faq-o-matic is like that (although I couldn't help feeling that it >>still needs agressive maintenance, i.e., taking good questions from >>debian-user and populating the faq-o-matic). I think that's a good >>idea, but don't fool yourself into thinking that a faq-o-matic >>arrangement means it's maintenance-free. >> >>> We already talked about some design issues, but it got never beyond >>> that point. I hope all of them get suitable parents. :-) >> >>We can hope. >> >>> "Oliver Elphick" <[email protected]> writes: >>> > Since I have volunteered to take over the job of co-ordinator that has >been >>> > made vacant by Christian Schwarz's departure, I had better explain what I >>> > think needs doing, so that you can all decide if you want me to do it. >>> > >>> > 1. Move the DDP webpages onto a Debian machine (www.debian.org?); ask >>> > Christian to alter the page at his site to point to the new location. >>> > Add Havoc's Debian Tutorial to the pages. >> >>Yes, and mark as orphaned what is orphaned. >> >>> > 2. Move the documentation source onto a Debian machine. Get from Ardo >>> > or have people resubmit any contributions they have already made >>> > and make sure that they are published. >> >>You should tolerate heterogeny. I.e., robert wants to keep source on >>his own machine, and I guess manually update you; eventually he will >>move to CVS. >> >>I think you should gently encourage *everyone* to use cvs.debian.org >>but not make it a requirement. >> >>> > 3. Make packages of the various manuals, as soon as they contain any >>> > reasonable amount of material. >> >>I think this is kinda a big job, no? Do you really want to do this? >>I think you could still be quite useful w/o being the actual packager >>of the various manuals. I'm worried you'll get too bogged down. >> >>> > 4. Arrange for people to be able to upload material and have it appear >>> > in the development version. >> >>Development version of what? >> >>> > I'm not sure of the merits of using cvs to do this, because I think that >>> > only the original author and the editor should be changing text. Is it >>> > possible to arrange cvs with limited permissions? [Each chapter owned by >>> > its author, and in the documentation group; only the editors are group >>> > members; all document sources have 664 permissions.] >> >>Certainly. >> >>There's another reason cvs is useful: contributors can be assured of >>patching off the *very latest* version. So it's revision control and >>software distribution in that sense. >> >>> > Ideally there >>> > should be some kind of server that accepts submissions from authors, >>> > incorporates them and runs a make of the HTML documentation, and (on >>> > success) copies the HTML and SGML onto the website. >> >>Yes, it looks like James will help you there. >> >>> > Any material submitted should either appear on the website or be >rejected >>> > within a week. Reasons for rejection would mainly be that the SGML fails >>> > to generate output; other circumstances are conceivable but would (I >hope) >>> > never arise! >> >>This reminds me of the linux patch page at >>http://samba.anu.edu.au/linux-patches/ (isn't Jitterbug a .deb yet?). >> >>I think it's outside your scope as document coordinator to enforce >>this for the documents themselves, although you might provide some >>sort of infrastructure for doc maintainers to use for kicks. Don't >>get too ambitious here, though, let's keep it simple. >> >>> > Any errors in content should become apparent if submissions are >published. >>> > If an author fails to correct an error quickly, I would expect to do it >>> > myself, to avoid misleading readers. If any dispute arises, it would >>> > ultimately go to the Technical Committee. >> >>Sounds good. >> >>Maybe it's my confusion, but I think you need a quick statement of the >>*scope* of your duties. >> >>-- >>.....A. P. 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