Hi Andreas, Above all I'd like to express my appreciation for your part in Debian-Edu development.
On Friday 06 August 2010 05:21:28 Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > Hi, > > ... > What is needed to make a collaboration possible? > > We need to make our system more modularized and flexible. How to do > that, well, that has still to be figured out. But I think skolelinux > will profit a lot from a more modularized setup. > > To me, the current setup appears to be too complicated and > specialized, resulting in many 'hacks' which make it unstructured and > hard to maintain. Perhaps that's the reason why there are only so few > people around participating in development; it seems like it is only > possible to either work full time on it or stop at all. Cruft has been > cumulated over the years, not making it easier to start contributing. > I share the opinion that skolelinux is too rigid and that this makes it fragile, with some cruft adding calcification on top. I believe the first step towards more flexibility must be an agreement to abandon the "Out of the Box" concept which has been a fundamental one since the beginning of Skolelinux. I'm not going to take side on an 'OtB vs. flexibility' debate but I claim that these are inherently conflicting. > What's the alternative? The alternative is a core system that includes > all components common to all of these systems: users, groups, machines > and software management, terminals, kerberos, webserver, printers, etc. > In line with the above stated view of the problem, I believe the alternative is a good, simple, easy to use management console/package. Providing such an alternative is not all that easy and simple, but there are many tools that could be employed and I assume there are also some using them to administer Debian-Edu-like systems. > ... > > Hopefully, by offering more flexibility, the 'forks' and re-inventions > of skolelinux could be unified again and developers motivated to > participate also to the core project. By enlarging the field of users, > the burden of developing would be shared on more shoulders and > synergies could be used to improve the system and not only 'fix' > issues. > > ... I think that > problems concerning the setup of skolelinux (understood as installing > from the DVD) are not our problem. A few more questions, perhaps even > some more actions after installation- this is not what makes schools > and teachers not to choose skolelinux. I guess most of the people > having installed the system in the last half year at school started to > change and modify the installation massively (more or less > successfully) right after setting it up. > I think all this could be achieved within a management framework. Best regards, Odd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
