Le jeudi 26 octobre 2006 19:10, vous avez écrit : > > Newbies don't use Emacs because it's not for them. > > Of course, this is complete nonsense. _Everybody_ who _ever_ uses > Emacs passes through a newbie phase.
These days, I wouldn't encourage people to try Emacs. It's not nonsense, it's my opinion. You don't share it. Fair enough. > > Experienced users know Emacs enough to get along without its > > documentation, > > Again, this is utter nonsense. I am an active Emacs developer and > maintainer of AUCTeX, and such can hardly be called inexperienced, and > I frequently need the documentation. Currently the lisp reference is not even provided by Emacs. And I bet you can use Emacs for everyday's tasks without it's user guide. > > and when they need it they know where to find it. > > And another piece of nonsense. Being an experienced User of Emacs > does not imply being experienced with the Debian packaging system and > the outpours of the DFSG guidelines. Nothing to do with it. They can even read the manual from gnu.org. > > Again, the split was made to make things clear toward licensing. > > The purpose of Debian is to provide free software, not to provide a > lecture about it. If Emacs (as created, provided and named by the > FSF) can't be provided in Debian main according to Debians guidelines, > it should get moved as whole to non-free. It _does_ provide a lecture of it: when people have to grab packages from non-free, they get de facto warned about what is problematic toward licensing. Emacs is free software, it's documentation is not. > There is no sense in providing only a partly functional part in main. > And it is misleading to not prominently point this out, in startup > message, and in the name of the package (emacs21-without-docs or > emacs21-only-dfsg or similar). Otherwise, people will reasonably > expect that the package contains a packaging/compilation of Emacs in > the extent delivered by the FSF. No, they won't expect that because package descriptions as well as changelogs and copyright files are informative enough for them to understand. -- Jérôme Marant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
