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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:00:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: glibc-$DEBVERSION dependency is harmful for unreleased architectures
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Package: locales

The dependency of locales on glibc-$DEBVERSION is harmful for
non-released architectures like the Hurd, since the only locales
package which exists (since there is not a testing disrtibution)
becomes uninstallable until the glibc package is recompiled.

Such dependency should be on glibc-$VERSION at most.

The reason glibc-$DEBVERSION was required in the past was that, at
some point, there were incompatible locales and libc packages having
the same VERSION but different DEBVERSION numbers. This was because
the maintainer was introducing new code from CVS without changing
the VERSION, which may be considered as a bad practice.

So, I request that the dependency is changed again to a non-debversioned
one (like glibc-$VERSION) and the maintainer refrains from making
incompatible changes without changing $VERSION as well.

Thanks.


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Subject: Re: Bug#164868: glibc-$DEBVERSION dependency is harmful for unreleased 
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:17:50PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> reopen 164868
> thanks
> 
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> 
> > At Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:00:24 +0200 (CEST),
> > Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > The dependency of locales on glibc-$DEBVERSION is harmful for
> > > non-released architectures like the Hurd, since the only locales
> > > package which exists (since there is not a testing disrtibution)
> > > becomes uninstallable until the glibc package is recompiled.
> >
> > I don't know why hurd is the special case.
> > Why do you just recompile them?
> 
> That's not the problem, the problem is that *while* it's not
> recompiled yet, the locales package becomes *completely* uninstallable,
> because the old version is not available anymore.
> 
> If you do not consider this a problem in libc, please reassign this
> to the ftp.debian.org package so that they create a testing
> distribution for all unreleased architectures, one that does not
> remove old packages until the new ones become installable.

Unstable is a freaking moving target. Don't file bugs just because
things don't stay in sync. That's ignorant.

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