<quote who="Sven Luther"> > > (You can actually use this from GDM itself, if you allow it, but that's not > > quite your point.) > > But it is disabled out of the box,
Ah, I see it was what you wanted your point to be... Don't worry about it, it's not a general solution to the problem presented. You're thinking about specific features here. > Now, i think the logout/shutdown thingy cannot be done as easily. Maybe > a hidden/gconf setting to use sudo would enable this, i don't think it > would be that difficult to do, you just need to : > > o add the gconf pref. > > o add the sudo call before doing the actual shutdown. > > Right ? No, not really. This is not a general solution. Lots of people don't have sudo installed, let alone use it, let alone know how it works. Is there even a reasonable sudo *configurator* GUI? Can't find anything in Debian, which for all intents and purposes means "no". :-) > I was never able to really understand how the redhat thingy was working, i > have thought since a long time that the easiest solution would be to have > a message passing system between the gnome/whatever logout dialog and > gdm/kdm/whatever which would tell gdm to not reload X, but do the actual > shutdown. Why not use (and put a pretty / usable face on) existing infrastructure? > Another message passing system with lilo/grub, would enable you to have a > kind of reboot into <a list of alternatives boots>. > It would be non-portable and i386 only, but i guess that if we have a > correct protocol for this, other arches boot-loaders can also adapt to it. It also sounds somewhat overblown and unnecessary. You're trying to put a usable face on a process that most users simply won't care about. Stupid but relevant point: Ever seen a Mac or Windows user boot a different kernel? :-) Anyway, the point is that GNOME needs a general solution to these problems that is portable and secure. - Jeff -- GU4DEC: June 16th-18th in Dublin, Ireland http://www.guadec.org/ "That whole 'you complete me' thing is just tragic and totally unrealistic. Go complete yourself."
