On Sun, 2003-04-27 at 02:46, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > I was never able to really understand how the redhat thingy was working, i > > have thought since a long time that the easiest solution would be to have > > a message passing system between the gnome/whatever logout dialog and > > gdm/kdm/whatever which would tell gdm to not reload X, but do the actual > > shutdown. > > Why not use (and put a pretty / usable face on) existing infrastructure?
Isn't this sort of where the Gnome System Tools fall in? I know they've got a bootloader configuration dialog. Maybe adding some shutdown/restart options to that would be the solution. That way they could fit right in with the GST's interface to Grub/Lilo. > > Another message passing system with lilo/grub, would enable you to have a > > kind of reboot into <a list of alternatives boots>. > > > It would be non-portable and i386 only, but i guess that if we have a > > correct protocol for this, other arches boot-loaders can also adapt to it. > > It also sounds somewhat overblown and unnecessary. You're trying to put a > usable face on a process that most users simply won't care about. Stupid but > relevant point: Ever seen a Mac or Windows user boot a different kernel? :-) Ah yes, but we are not Mac or Windows users. ;) We like to have multiple versions of kernels and different root partitions for different distributions; and the power to control it. Muhuhahahaha. > Anyway, the point is that GNOME needs a general solution to these problems > that is portable and secure. Agreed. -Link -- Peace love and penguins

