If one upgrades an hppa machine to unstable and tries to start gnome, the first problem one encounters is that gnome-panel tells you that it's already running about 9 times, then nothing happens. Downgrading gnome-panel (and its dependencies -- gnome-panel-data, gnome-utils, libgnomevfs2-common and some misc libs) to 2.8.3-1 makes it work.
However, starting gnome applications then doesn't go at all well. X-Chat segfaults. Evolution dies with a 'Fatal IO error 22' after whining about failing to parse message-list.etspec. Nautilus dies with a Fontconfig error and Pango error. gnome-calculator, aisleriot and abiword work fine. This could all be due to having had to install older versions of packages to make gnome-panel work, of course. Or maybe there's some common bug in an underlying library causing all these problems. When having problems with gnome-panel 2.10.2-1, the output from ps -aux seems to indicate that lots of invocations of gnome-panel are intended to be transient, but are sticking around. What kind of information is going to be useful to help someone debug this? Is it worth trying 2.12 from experimental? Does anyone care about getting 2.10 fixed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

