On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 01:29:26AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > The fact that he's even presenting this tired old argument means that > > either nobody is competently presenting the arguments for freeing of > > standards documents, or the arguments aren't being heard ... > > Agreed. If someone from the Debian community has the patience to help > explain this, joining the IPR working group within the IETF would be > useful. But please keep the situation civil, and instead of assuming > people disagree with you,, assume they don't understand your position.
They can't understand the position if they're making the argument referred to above; if they did, they would minimally explain how they don't believe renaming requirements are sufficient, and address the case of independent documents being misrepresented as RFCs. (It's not too surprising, though--even people on this list continue to make the same argument. It just takes a bit of repetition, sometimes, before a counterargument registers.) > There is an opportunity to turn this into progress, though. Maybe. It's a better situation than those where copyright holders ignore licensing issues and refuse to deal with them entirely, at least. (Even if they can be negotiated to a closer-to-Free license, that's an improvement, even though the result still won't go in Debian.) -- Glenn Maynard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

