Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have recently been wondering if it would be possible to come up with > some way of splitting -legal up in order to make it more approachable > for outsiders.
There's quite a lot of us trying to do it and we've not succeeded yet. More eyeballs welcome. I'm not sure that splitting -legal into other lists would be a great help. I can divide the types of thread into maintainer, other packaging, other -legal, other project and outside, but the issues cut across all of those, so having N archives to search would be a pain. The issues don't divide neatly to me. The -legal-announce idea is interesting. Sadly, I think the reliable posters don't divide neatly by any measurement I can think of. I suspect it would go the same way as the license summaries because no fixed group is impartial enough. > Unfortunately it seems that -legal is prone to enormous > threads that often appear either obscure or unproductive (normally flamy) > and these threads can easily swamp the rest of the traffic. I know that > when the bigger threads blow up I often end up opening my -legal mailbox, > glancing at the list of messages and immediately deciding that it's not > worth my time to read it. This experience is extremely off putting and > means that I can sympathise with what Jeorg is saying. Yes, I think there's a problem with flamey threads and also a sort of "thread tennis" where no new information is being introduced. I think that's what drove me off of devel. There's some personal development required by some readers too, IMO. For example, why do you junk the whole mailbox and not just the flamey threads? I've switched to using the news:linux.debian.legal because newsreaders seem better at picking and choosing (and it avoids downloading all). What other ways do readers make this list readable, should we document them on the list page and what can we do to support them? Joerg is a special case. It would be very good for ftpmasters to start threads here (directly or through bugs) and I think -legal contributors would make a special effort if asked. > I can't actually think of a way to do this off the top of my head (I'd > say that normally people don't actively try to start these large > discussions) and it would require enforcement by the active members of > the list. How do you enforce this, though? We don't have a tradition of strong moderation here and a lot of posters don't even bother to follow the debian lists code of conduct (link below), which I think would make a big improvement here. The few attempts at pointing out futility haven't had much effect yet, IMO. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
