On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:51:43AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 03:25:19PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote: > > Diego Biurrun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I surely hope we're not at the point where constructive dialog has > > > become impossible. I ask all of you to judge my words on their merit > > > and not past statements made by other people. > > > > I think we're not, but I don't know whether either mplayer > > developers or debian developers can convince a ftpmaster > > (which is where this tab stops) about this issue, or we > > have to wait for a legal brain to comment. > > Specifically, it doesn't help that mplayer developers have pretty much > run their credibility into the ground by now. > > After countless rounds of "It's free now!" "Here's six more blatant > abuses, three of which you already knew about [references]" "Fuck > off", I'm not overly surprised that people are disinclined to believe > them.
Ever since I restarted this discussion in March 2004[1] all the issues raised by people on this list have been addressed by me. If some are still outstanding, please point them out. > Unfortunately we don't have a good solution to the problem of dealing > with a package where upstream are untrustworthy lying bastards. I'm part of upstream. I have neither lied to nor insulted anyone here. Whether I am trustworthy or not is for others to decide, but all the facts I have presented can easily be verified. Please don't let us degenerate to name-calling and keep the discussion as civil as it has been up to this point. Thanks. Diego [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/03/msg00235.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
