MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Hm. Nobody seems to disagree, right? > > This was on the end of a very long email originally, so I don't > think you can tell much from lack of disagreement. Disagree with
That's why I repeated it. > what, anyway? You have posted little about what you intend to > say. I suspect my conclusions are different to yours: My research has shown that quake2 and quake2-data seem to conflict with german youth protection law. In a discussion on d-l, my conclusions have been accepted. That was my impression until I read your mail. Right now, my conclusions are not that defined: I'm wondering at which point specifically you don't follow my explanation of the german youth protection law. > I am strongly against directing the German mirror admins about > such an unclear problem. If you want to send them a "this law > may be a problem" statement, fine, but maybe that should go > through debian-mirrors and/or debian-user-german. What part of the problem is unclear to you? The text of the law seems to say that Debian shouldn't distribute packages in Germany that result in installation of something very similar to Quake II, as banned by the federal government. The literature as far as I read it seems to agree. Of course this is nothing definitive like a court ruling, but from my point of view this isn't very unclear either. It's a well-founded legal opinion, I'd say. And what do you mean by "maybe this should go through..."? Do you want me to ask for consensus there first? For a mail saying "my legal research says this is a problem"? Seriously? Sorry, but my time is limited. I want to help the Debian project to avoid legal trouble, but that's going only so far. I am not going to force anybody to listen to something he/she doesn't want to hear. > It would probably be helpful to ask FFII's German branches > about this. My German isn't good enough to write that. > http://bb.ffii.org/ http://muenchen.ffii.org/ Hm. I don't know them, but their web page seems to say they are lobbyists, informing people about the drawbacks of software patents. How does Quake II relate to software patents? Are there any law professionals involved in the FFII, preferably german-speaking ones? According to their web page, the FSF Europe seems to follow a more broad approach, but they don't seem to have a legal discussion list. The Creative Commons team is working with two german law institutes (listed on the CC web page). You could ask them for their advice on this. >> I will inform the german mirror admin tomorrow. > > There are around 25 mirrors in Germany that we know about. Good point. I was thinking of ftp.de.debian.org My conclusion right now: Either you come up with specific criticism, or you decide to ask those free software law institutes for advice (yes, they do speak english, just point them to this thread). Otherwise I'd say my findings are still valid and mail those mirrors accordingly. What do you say? Michael Below -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

