Hi,

On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 12:21 -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
> Måns Rullgård <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > AFAIK, Eclipse uses only the standard Java API
> > as published by Sun, and will run equally well with any implementation
> > of said interface.
> 
> Great -- which implementation does Debian ship it with?  That's all
> that really matters.

Both runtimes in question (as most free runtimes) are based on the GNU
Classpath core class library (which is the same as libgcj which comes
with GCC and provides the runtime library for the gij interpreter and
gcj ahead of time compiler). It is distributed under the terms mentioned
here: http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/license.html

There have been questions about how this license precisely interacts
when combined with other code (like the LGPL in the sablevm case and the
GPL in the kaffe case). The FSF wants to make the intent of the GNU
Classpath distribution terms as clear as possible and has setup a GNU
Classpath license clarification wiki were people can add suggestions or
concerns about the current wording (if any):
http://www.gnu.org/licensing/classpath/

> > This whole discussion is something between ridiculous and hilarious,
> > definitely not useful.
> 
> If it causes even one person to understand that the generation or
> transportation of a copy is what matters, and not technical
> workarounds, I'll consider it useful.

I believe this pissing contest between the sablevm and kaffe packagers
is a big waste of time. There are obviously important issues to be
worked out like the ASL and GPL compatibility and making sure the
interpretations and intend of the various licenses are clear. But I
don't believe the best way to do that is by constantly claiming someone
else work is "illegal" and/or "a complete waste of time".

Cheers,

Mark

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