On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 04:31:20AM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > On 7/16/05, Diego Biurrun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 03:09:20AM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > > > > > > If Debian and Thomson knock this domino over, someday even DeCSS may > > > be blessed by the powers that be. (Though IMHO the only > > > non-infringing use it really has is the product mock-up scenario.) > > > > WTF? How about watching DVDs? > > That requires, AFAICT, a license for the relevant patents from the > relevant patent holders. AFAIK CSS itself isn't patented (or > patentable) but the typical license agreement for some bits of the DVD > technology suite that are patented is conditioned on respecting the > whole scheme of copy protection, CSS included. Don't blame me, I > didn't design the system, I don't pull the puppet strings attached to > Jack Valenti, I think CSS is ill designed and ill conceived, etc., > etc. I'm just telling it like it is. You wanna go up against money > and power wielded by very large dinosaurs, have fun -- but don't drag > the bloody operating system into the trenches with you, OK?
OK, apologies if I was a bit harsh at jumping to the conclusion that you were intending to say DeCSS (or nowadays more likely libdvdcss) had no non-infringing uses (leaving out any discussion of what infringement might really be). AFAIK Linspire has a license from MPEG-LA to ship DVD players with their distribution, but they use xine/MPlayer together with libdvdcss. BTW, calling CSS a copy protection is misleading, please don't mislabel it that way. Diego P.S.: No need to CC me, I'm subscribed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

