On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 03:16:38 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> > This sounds like "Since we have ignored this issue in the past, we
> > must go on forever ignoring it, even though it *is* a DFSG-freeness
> > issue"
> 
> No, it's "throwing these packages out of Debian as a first step in
> addressing the license issue (one that not everyone agrees makes the
> license non-free) would be stupid, and doing so selectively or
> inconsistently based on how important to us the package is would be
> even moreso."

I did not say we should start "throwing these packages out of Debian as
a first step".
But, as soon as there's consensus about the non-freeness of PHP, we
should start persuading upstream to fix the license.
As other packages that suffer from the same issue are found out (e.g.:
Subversion) we can get in touch with their upstream and persuade them to
apply similar fixes.

AFAIK, the same issue *has* been fixed in Apache (with the switch from
Apache Software License Version 1.1 to Apache License Version 2.0), so I
would say it's not impossible to get it fixed...[1]


[1] as I already acknowledged in another message in this thread, it
seems that there's one single file (in sarge's apache2) which is
copyrighted by The Apache Software Foundation, but has not yet been relicensed: 
I hope they just forgot to do so...

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