On Tuesday 01 March 2011 01:37:23 Tony Travis wrote: > On 28/02/11 22:59, Andreas Tille wrote:
Hi all, I missed the beginning of the thread but neverthelesse I would like to chip in a few thoughts as well. The goal seems to be to make Debian as attractive to a biologist as MS. Worthy goal but 1) When you decide to use Debian (for whatever reason) you accept the responsibilities and ideas behind it (like it or not) So if Debian decides (usually for good reasons) to exclude something then it is their decision and one has to live with it when one *decides* to use Debian. 2) If you *decide* that you want to use Debian and *not accept* Debian's decision then you are on your own to find clever ways to circumvent the problems (e.g. set up your own repositories to fill the gap) but you cannot expect the Debian people to change their mind. It is well know that having strict principles will not make your life easier. So the goal should not be to change Debian until it will meet the principles of MS so your problems will go away but educate biologists that the tradeoff is worth it. If one (biologist) does not *want* to accept the tradeoffs imposed by Debian one should rather look for alternatives or stay with MS. There is little to be gained *making* people like Debian without them *genuinely* accepting its principles. See. I would like to make my electric car go 900 km per charge like my diesel car. Well I either accept the fact that this currently is not possible and start to like my electric car or I stay with my diesel car. I am not going to lure diesel car drivers into an electric car well knowing that they will dislike the experience. And neither will I pressure the electric car maker to add a diesel engine so the diesel car drivers will feel at home. It is all about decisions. I personally have stoped to *talk people into Linux*. They either find their way themselves (and I will provide support) or they will stay with Windows. As for the NX example. They went closed source recently. And if they really wanted they could make it run on gcj and IcedTea.So it would be worth the effort to kindly ask them to make it work on Debian. But I probably totally missed the point. Best regards, Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

