Hi, As Ogre is being part of the OpenMW -> MyGUI -> Ogre dependency chain I'm hopefull it will be kept in shape.
I'm sure the people of Debian Med are totally competent, but also as overworked as here... > I agree to develop and maintain the package but I can't do it on my own. I don't understand what you propose and what you need. Greetings Le sam. 4 oct. 2025 à 11:00, Flavien Bridault <[email protected]> a écrit : > Hello Team, > Dear Simon, > Dear Alexandre, > > I try again to raise the issue of introducing the ogre 1.14 package. Again > I agree to develop and maintain the package but I can't do it on my own. If > people don't have the time to help me with that in this section, which I > can understand since we are all volunteers, could you at least tell me if I > can propose this package to another section? Either in the same section as > Sight, in med, or maybe in science ? > > Cheers, > > *Dr. Flavien BRIDAULT* > Director of Software Development > IRCAD France & IRCAD Africa > > [email protected] <[email protected]> > Tél. : +33 (0)3 88 119 201 > [image: IRCAD France] > http://www.ircad.fr/ > http://www.ircad.africa/ <http://www.ircad.fr/> > > Suivez l'IRCAD sur [image: Facebook] > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/IRCAD/193785273990141> > > > *IRCAD France* > Hôpitaux Universitaires - 1, place de l'Hôpital - 67091 Strasbourg Cedex - > FRANCE > Le 01/03/2025 à 18:05, Flavien BRIDAULT a écrit : > > Hello Team, > Dear Simon, > Dear Alexandre, > > I come back after more than a year of silence, and I finally took some > time to put my hands on this. I have a first working build with the version > 14.3.4, of course I started on top on the 13.3 branch. > Thank Simon for your work and your input, it was very valuable, and it > there was not so much work for me to upgrade from 13.3 to 14.3. I took the > option for now to only keep the major version number in the name of the > package, so ogre-14. If they switch to semantic versioning, I guess we can > assume API changes will only occur between them? The minor versions look a > bit frequent to bump the package name each time... But of course I am open > to any suggestion about that. > > Alexandre, you kindly offered to give me access to the repository, I would > be glad to be able to push this branch on the existing repository. Would > could sponsor me and help with the upload then ? As I said last time, I can > offer my help to maintain the package on the future as I heavily rely on it > to build my sight package. > > Best regards, > > -------- Message initial -------- > *De*: Simon Schmeißer <[email protected] > <simon%20%3d%3fiso-8859-1%3fq%3fschmei%3ddfer%3f%3d%20%[email protected]%3e> > > > *À*: [email protected] > *Objet*: Re: Ogre > 1.12 > *Date*: 07/11/2023 09:54:02 > > Dear Flavien, > > sorry for not replying to your previous mail. I started on a quest to > update ogre/package newer ogre releases a couple of years ago and for me > the process has been somewhat frustrating to say the least. Debian seems > to have a very different approach to incremental improvement than I have. > > There are MRs for the latest release of 1.12 (1.12.13) here > https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/ogre/-/merge_requests/6 > > and a branch for 13.3 here > https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/ogre/-/tree/ogre-13.3?ref_type=heads > > The version scheme changed from 1.12 to 13.0 and also now there is a abi > compatibility guarantee for minor releases. That's why the so-name was > shortened for 13.3. Part of this guarantee is possible by making lot's > of code private and having cleaner interfaces. This unfortunately breaks > gazebo, another reverse dependency (of ogre-1.9). So short term I would > suggest keeping: > > 1.9 > > newest 1.12 > > and adding 14.x > > Pavel, the ogre himself, is very helpful by the way! > > Best regards > > Simon > > ps: I'm a contributor of rviz and it's very much alive btw. The version > for ROS 2, rviz2, decided to vendor ogre 1.12.10 for some reason, so > they no longer depend on Debian packages but I'm not (yet) involved with > that. > > > Am 07.11.23 um 08:45 schrieb Flavien Bridault: > > Dear Debian developers, > > During the late summer, I launched a bottle in the sea about the > status of the Ogre package. I didn't get any answer so far, but I give > a new try today. :) > > I took a look at the dependencies, I can see there are only a few: > > # apt-cache rdepends libogre1.12.10 > > libogre1.12.10 > Reverse Depends: > libogre-1.12-dev > rviz > python3-ogre-1.12 > ogre-1.12-tools > libsight > librviz6d > libmygui.ogreplatform0debian1v5 > > So, to sum up, other ogre packages, sight (so me :) ), libmygui and > rviz. Sight already builds with 1.14, libmygui too, for rviz I don't > know but it looks quite active so I don't see any reason they could > not update. I did myself the update from 1.12 to 1.14 in sight and it > was not that dramatic. So in my humble opinion, it is maybe not worth > keeping a 1.12 version. > > Once again, if that can help, I can offer to work on this or to work > on a new ogre-1.14 package. I just need some guidance to know if I > should start with the current repository or a fresh one, and of course > some sponsorship to get access to the repo and provide support for the > upload. > > Best regards, > > > *Dr. Flavien BRIDAULT* > Director of Software Development > IRCAD France & IRCAD Africa > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Tél. : +33 (0)3 88 119 201 > IRCAD France > http://www.ircad.fr/ > http://www.ircad.africa/ <http://www.ircad.fr/> > > Suivez l'IRCAD sur Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/pages/IRCAD/193785273990141> > > *IRCAD France* > Hôpitaux Universitaires - 1, place de l'Hôpital - 67091 Strasbourg > Cedex - FRANCE > > Le 22/08/2023 à 09:20, Flavien Bridault a écrit : > > Dear Debian developers, > > I am the maintainer of the Debian package of Sight [1], a toolkit for > medical imaging software. > > We rely a lot on the Ogre3D engine for the visualisation. However the > Ogre version (1.12.10) present in Debian is more than two years old. > We would like to upgrade to a more recent version to benefit from > bugfixes, enhancements and to ease the multiple platform support. > > Is there any plan to update the version of ogre soon ? I noticed a > branch 13.3 was started but apparently it has never been uploaded. > Was there any technical difficulty arising ? I guess for > compatibility issues with dependencies, there is a need to keep the > 1.12 version anyway. > > If the answer is negative, I can offer my help to try to solve the > issues or to develop a new package, ogre-1.14 for instance. However, > I am not an official Debian developer so I would need a sponsor for > checking the package and the upload. > > Thank you in advance for your answer, > > Best regards, > > > [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/sight > > > >
