Dear Alexandre, Thank your for your answer.
Sorry for not being clear enough.I already have a package in good shape. Feedback for improvement will be welcome of course.
But, I am not a Debian Developer, so far I am only the maintainer of the package Sight. I used to maintain the package with the Debian team, handling most updates from upstream. Maybe I made a shortcut thinking I could do the same for Ogre 1.14.
If yes, I would need credentials to be able to push and maybe create the repository on Salsa and if I understand, sponsorship. So I would need people to upload the ogre 1.14 package whenever needed, like the Med team does for me. Is it possible ?
If not, I guess I need to step up to a developer position to propose and maintain this package ?
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Le 04/10/2025 à 15:33, Alexandre Detiste a écrit :
Hi, As Ogre is being part of the OpenMW -> MyGUI -> Ogre dependency chain I'm hopefull it will be kept in shape. I'm sure the people of Debian Med are totally competent, but also as overworked a Attention ! Ce message a été envoyé depuis l'extérieur de votre organisation. Block sender <https://mail-cloudstation-eu-central-1.prod.hydra.sophos.com/mail/api/xgemail/smart-banner/07265df4fd4fd07f669571102f55e50a>sophospsmartbannerend Hi, As Ogre is being part of the OpenMW -> MyGUI -> Ogre dependency chain I'm hopefull it will be kept in shape. I'm sure the people of Debian Med are totally competent, but also as overworked as here...> I agree to develop and maintain the package but I can't do it on my own.I don't understand what you propose and what you need. GreetingsLe sam. 4 oct. 2025 à 11:00, Flavien Bridault <[email protected]> a écrit :Hello Team, Dear Simon, Dear Alexandre, I try again to raise the issue of introducing the ogre 1.14 package. Again I agree to develop and maintain the package but I can't do it on my own. If people don't have the time to help me with that in this section, which I can understand since we are all volunteers, could you at least tell me if I can propose this package to another section? Either in the same section as Sight, in med, or maybe in science ? 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I have a first working build with the version 14.3.4, of course I started on top on the 13.3 branch. Thank Simon for your work and your input, it was very valuable, and it there was not so much work for me to upgrade from 13.3 to 14.3. I took the option for now to only keep the major version number in the name of the package, so ogre-14. If they switch to semantic versioning, I guess we can assume API changes will only occur between them? The minor versions look a bit frequent to bump the package name each time... But of course I am open to any suggestion about that. Alexandre, you kindly offered to give me access to the repository, I would be glad to be able to push this branch on the existing repository. Would could sponsor me and help with the upload then ? As I said last time, I can offer my help to maintain the package on the future as I heavily rely on it to build my sight package. Best regards, -------- Message initial -------- *De*: Simon Schmeißer <[email protected] <mailto:simon%20%3d%3fiso-8859-1%3fq%3fschmei%3ddfer%3f%3d%20%[email protected]%3e>> *À*: [email protected] *Objet*: Re: Ogre > 1.12 *Date*: 07/11/2023 09:54:02 Dear Flavien, sorry for not replying to your previous mail. I started on a quest to update ogre/package newer ogre releases a couple of years ago and for me the process has been somewhat frustrating to say the least. Debian seems to have a very different approach to incremental improvement than I have. There are MRs for the latest release of 1.12 (1.12.13) here https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/ogre/-/merge_requests/6 <https://eu-central-1.protection.sophos.com?d=debian.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9zYWxzYS5kZWJpYW4ub3JnL2dhbWVzLXRlYW0vb2dyZS8tL21lcmdlX3JlcXVlc3RzLzY=&i=NjQxNDdjYjc3OWE3ZmQzMTQyZDg4YTcw&t=cWNKUDY3dTFVRndUcG0wWi9vWTlabFlWbTJybzZtVDJ1b0FDdUQvNGdmMD0=&h=a78fae0e4f54414ab593bb010a9da57e&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYK3erLr1omUr52a8RB4JV4M_PQspKrdegZlsnrgNWwRQ> and a branch for 13.3 here https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/ogre/-/tree/ogre-13.3?ref_type=heads <https://eu-central-1.protection.sophos.com?d=debian.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9zYWxzYS5kZWJpYW4ub3JnL2dhbWVzLXRlYW0vb2dyZS8tL3RyZWUvb2dyZS0xMy4zP3JlZl90eXBlPWhlYWRz&i=NjQxNDdjYjc3OWE3ZmQzMTQyZDg4YTcw&t=bHQzR0RJVWdYNmNSU3Q1MnluQU53TDFGemlIMjk2WGxEQml3NlFxT3ZxUT0=&h=a78fae0e4f54414ab593bb010a9da57e&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYK3erLr1omUr52a8RB4JV4M_PQspKrdegZlsnrgNWwRQ> The version scheme changed from 1.12 to 13.0 and also now there is a abi compatibility guarantee for minor releases. That's why the so-name was shortened for 13.3. Part of this guarantee is possible by making lot's of code private and having cleaner interfaces. This unfortunately breaks gazebo, another reverse dependency (of ogre-1.9). So short term I would suggest keeping: 1.9 newest 1.12 and adding 14.x Pavel, the ogre himself, is very helpful by the way! Best regards Simon ps: I'm a contributor of rviz and it's very much alive btw. The version for ROS 2, rviz2, decided to vendor ogre 1.12.10 for some reason, so they no longer depend on Debian packages but I'm not (yet) involved with that. Am 07.11.23 um 08:45 schrieb Flavien Bridault:Dear Debian developers, During the late summer, I launched a bottle in the sea about the status of the Ogre package. I didn't get any answer so far, but I give a new try today. :) I took a look at the dependencies, I can see there are only a few: # apt-cache rdepends libogre1.12.10 libogre1.12.10 Reverse Depends: libogre-1.12-dev rviz python3-ogre-1.12 ogre-1.12-tools libsight librviz6d libmygui.ogreplatform0debian1v5 So, to sum up, other ogre packages, sight (so me :) ), libmygui and rviz. Sight already builds with 1.14, libmygui too, for rviz I don't know but it looks quite active so I don't see any reason they could not update. I did myself the update from 1.12 to 1.14 in sight and it was not that dramatic. So in my humble opinion, it is maybe not worth keeping a 1.12 version. Once again, if that can help, I can offer to work on this or to work on a new ogre-1.14 package. I just need some guidance to know if I should start with the current repository or a fresh one, and of course some sponsorship to get access to the repo and provide support for the upload. 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We rely a lot on the Ogre3D engine for the visualisation. However the Ogre version (1.12.10) present in Debian is more than two years old. We would like to upgrade to a more recent version to benefit from bugfixes, enhancements and to ease the multiple platform support. Is there any plan to update the version of ogre soon ? I noticed a branch 13.3 was started but apparently it has never been uploaded. Was there any technical difficulty arising ? I guess for compatibility issues with dependencies, there is a need to keep the 1.12 version anyway. If the answer is negative, I can offer my help to try to solve the issues or to develop a new package, ogre-1.14 for instance. However, I am not an official Debian developer so I would need a sponsor for checking the package and the upload. Thank you in advance for your answer, Best regards, [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/sight <https://eu-central-1.protection.sophos.com?d=debian.org&u=aHR0cHM6Ly90cmFja2VyLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvcGtnL3NpZ2h0&i=NjQxNDdjYjc3OWE3ZmQzMTQyZDg4YTcw&t=QlBScjRmSWZkRjdTcVloeWJsU1A3ZmhJcUdtRzZzaVplczNUbnFtcC9nOD0=&h=a78fae0e4f54414ab593bb010a9da57e&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYK3erLr1omUr52a8RB4JV4M_PQspKrdegZlsnrgNWwRQ>
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