> This may actually be what he wants - he just hasn't expressed it in
> the right way from a legal POV.

Yeah for sure, this was my understanding, and what I meant being "I dont
believe FOSS is / was his thing". It's a pity because copy-lefting it have
been the easy thing to do.

> It would be a service to the software world to get a clarification of
> what he actually wants, in either the free, or non-free directions.

I'll keep my eyes and ears peeled for what he's up to these days, but
having looked I can't even find an email address for him these days ...

Cheers

On Sun, Apr 5, 2026 at 2:56 PM Wookey <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2026-04-04 20:01 +0200, Jonathan Bergh wrote:
>
> >The software is released with the source code by John Denton, formerly of
> >the Whittle Lab at Cambridge, who has not licensed or copyrighted the code
> >(I dont believe FOSS is / was his thing, just releasing the code to the
> >engineering community as a gesture of goodwill upon his retirement). The
> >statement of the software being free can be read on the webpage, and also
> >in the conference paper within which he announced his release of the
> >software as "free for the community to use".
>
> As others have explained, without specifying an explicit licence that
> allows at least redistribution the software is not suitable for
> Debian.
>
> But they guy clearly does want others to be able to use the software,
> "The design system is freely available to all", so it would be worth
> contacting him to explain that for us to make it easily available in
> Debian, or for anyone else to do similar for other systems, or to
> allow it to be publically maintained and maybe even improved, in
> perpetuity, it would be very helpful if he specificed a licence of
> some sort, preferably a free software one.
>
> This may actually be what he wants - he just hasn't expressed it in
> the right way from a legal POV.  Or maybe he wants to retain complete
> control and just offer up freeware releases from time to time, we
> can't tell without asking.
>
> It would be a service to the software world to get a clarification of
> what he actually wants, in either the free, or non-free directions.
>
> Wookey
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