[I am a DM] Hi there,
Even this is against the spirit of Debian Maintainer Concept, I believe this is because people are pragmatic. Speaking of experience I had to re-upload 5 times the exact same packages (GDCM) because in between each upload: - HPPA uploaded a Java package with dangling symnlink, - arm/armel updated the java package and libraries moved around, - vtk upload a libvtk-java with dangling symlink, - cmake was uploaded with a broken findjni.cmake. ref: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562775 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579959 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=544674#115 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=544674#167 Thankfully I was under the debian-med umbrella, otherwise I would have gone mad, if every time I would have had to search for a DD. I completely understand when a package is being *first* uploaded the need for a DD to review it. What I do not understand is that I should go with this exact same process (which can takes a couple of days), where the only differences appears in debian/control file just to tweak some version number. I even had a case where two different DD did the upload, I *really* think this would save brain cycle if we had a lighter process. For instance, I would really like to see a special DM-Upload-Allowed + VCS field (because I use VCS, I believe minor changes to debian/* should be automatic). I really do believe only the first upload should be manually checked, and fixes on /exotic/ platform should not go into the main category. Thanks for your attention. -Mathieu Ps: I am fine with the definition of second class citizen, I just want to make the process a little lighter, this will reduce frustration for everyone. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi! > > I noticed that recently some people seem to seek first time sponsors > while asking for setting the "DM-Upload-Allowed: yes" flag at the very > same time. > > While I can certainly understand Maintainers want to upload their > packages ASAP themselves, I would like to point out that I consider that > quite against the spirit of the Debian Maintainer Concept. > > The idea is, that you convince an (experienced) Developer, that you can > do your work on your own on a per package basis. As Debian Maintainers > don't need to pass the regular procedures to check their "technical > capabilities" (so to speak), the idea is to select the packages you are > allowed to upload on a case by case basis. Or to give you an example: > Just because you can package simple game doesn't necessarily mean you > can package and maintain a shared library. > > So I think asking for DMUA:Yes while seeking an initial sponsor is just > plain wrong, as convincing a DD shouldn't be a one timer. I therefore > ask DMs not to ask to set this flag on the first upload, and DDs not to > do so. > > > Best regards, > Alexander > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
