(I should say my views are not that of the US Federal Government, only mine
and mine alone, and I did not mean to imply the NSA would kidnap anyone or
do anything illegal under US Law)

USA #1,
  Paul
On Jul 13, 2016 8:33 AM, "Paul Tagliamonte" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:53:28PM +0200, Michael Ole Olsen wrote:
> > If you cannot stand behind your work with your real name, you should not
> be in Debian IMO
> >
> > I'm already starting becoming paranoid with the many new uploaders,
> debian has gotten large by now.
>
> No. No no no no no no no no no. Everything about this, no. No.
>
>
> Trust me, nation state actors wouldn't be coming in as "Foo123", they'd
> be coming in with a tight identity, with *A REAL* issued ID.
>
> All the big countries have had spies in other countries for years, and I
> find it 100% laughable that you think a name will foil them.
>
> Foiled again! Can't find a passable fake passport!
>
>
> If countries who want to get in have datacenters the size of NSA's, and
> spycraft established from years of fooling border guards trained to find
> fakes are your threat model, you're boned anyway.
>
> You think a border guard can't spot a fake, what makes you think some DD
> will before signing a key? (protip: they won't). Or that the inbox is
> secured from a national security letter (protip: they're not).
>
> I've known Unit's work from our Ubuntu years, and not only is it better
> than the majority of people complaining about their uid string, but Unit
> has done it under the same alias. I trust Unit's work.
>
> I don't know how I'd sign their key, but I'd be willing to.
>
>
> This entire thread is a shame.
>
>
> I strongly invite everyone to think about their attack vector and
> reconsider their point of view. Because trust me, the NSA isn't coming
> in as Unit, they're comming in after pwning paultag or some DD on VAC.
> Or by extoring a DD who's been gone from the project for 10 years and
> has their family kidnapped and the ransom is to run a 0day on a Debian
> machine.
>
>
> I'll +1 Unit's DM application. I sponsored a few packages and I trust his
> work.
>
> Cheers,
>   Paul
>

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