Sorry , for interruption between the mentors , But can i know except rolling the dice , What are the things that a mentor should know and after how many contribution ,they can go for this prestigious Summit And why there is rolling of dice rather then a formal written format for it and a review of best admin to represent Debian in Mentor summit .
I know , i am not mentor and i shouldn't interfere in this matter but , as a part of Debian community . I am just asking some questions. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Molly de Blanc <debl...@riseup.net> wrote: > I think it would be good for us to send one mentor and one admin. Jaminy > (who has been a great admin) expressed interest. Are there any objections? > > Unless anyone else has strong feelings, I'm inclined to literally roll > the dice and randomly pick someone. > > Cheers, > Molly > > > On 08/09/2018 03:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > > > On 09/08/18 16:47, Lucas Kanashiro wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 08/09/2018 06:16 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >>> > >>> On 09/08/18 00:57, Lucas Kanashiro wrote: > >>>> I do not know if you understood what I was saying... I am not arguing > >>>> that people that do not maintain packages do not worthwhile (I know > the > >>>> Debian constitution). I was claiming that even mentors can be > newcomers > >>>> in our project, and if want to keep them tighten to our community, a > >>>> conference such as Debconf is the right place. > >>>> > >>> Yes, I fully agree we need to make it easy for people to attend Debian > >>> events and events where Debian has a stronger presence (reminder: the > >>> DPL offers USD 100 to anyone for travel to a BSP, contact him for > >>> details) > >>> > >>> For the summit, however, we still need to decide whether to use some or > >>> all of the criteria that have come up or just to fall back on the > >>> previous algorithm: randomly pick from those people who never attended > >>> the summit before. > >>> > >>> >From what I can see, there are now 6 candidates (Dashamir, Lucas, > >>> Jaminy, Urvika, Chirayu, Milena) and none of them attended before, is > >>> that correct? > >>> > >>> To tweak the previous algorithm to ensure diversity, we could start by > >>> randomly selecting one of the 3 women and then make a random selection > >>> from the remaining 5 candidates. As Molly is the only remaining person > >>> named in the last delegation, perhaps we can ask her to roll the dice? > >> > >> You can ensure diversity for sure (1 slot for women). But again, pick > >> randomly people that may not understand what Debian is to represent the > >> project might not be a good idea. I think that I already made my point, > >> I'll leave this decision up to admins. > >> > > > > I'm not saying this is the best approach, only that if we don't get a > > lot of feedback from people it may be easier to simply fall back on the > > default (or something very close to it) from previous years. > > > > If somebody wants to volunteer to take the possible criteria and work > > them into a new selection procedure now is the time. > > > > For example, this could be a nice little script in the outreach-admin > > repo on Salsa: > > > > 1. putting all the candidates in a table, with boolean values for each > > of the criteria > > > > 2. making a set of all candidate pairs that satisfy the selection goals > > (every mentor should appear in at least one pair) > > > > 3. randomly choosing one of the pairs from the set > > > > Step (2) is the part of the process that may need some thinking about. > > > > Regards, > > > > Daniel > > > > > >