On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:21:55PM +0000, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, MJ Ray said: > > Also I assume Joerg Jaspert's reply is serious, even if I think it's > > mistaken - if someone produced a CD of our distribution that did > > globally-illegal activities by default and sold it labelled as > > "official debian", I hope the project would act against them.
> Why do you hope that? What part of the DFSG leads you to believe we > should? And illegal in what jurisdiction? The DFSG does not, and should not, control our licensing of the Debian trademarks. It is true that the DFSG and the Social Contract are the only principles for which there is an a priori consensus in Debian[1]. I find it distasteful that some people seem to use this very fact as an argument against taking ethical stances as a project on matters unrelated to software licensing, as if it's not even worth asking whether there are other points that we can agree on as a community. Indeed, I believe this attitude has contributed significantly to the more dysfunctional aspects of the Debian community. (In the present instance, I'm unconvinced that it's realistic for Debian to police the entire clothing manufacturing process without drastically limiting the number of vendors we license to, because so much of the clothing industry /is/ an unethical mess; but it would be nice if we could actually have that conversation, instead of setting up strawmen about software licensing.) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ [1] Er, in /theory/ there's a consensus about these principles, anyway! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

