On May 3, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Hi! > > Readding IMHO relevant quote for Alexanders Question: > > * Stefano Zacchiroli <[email protected]> [2010-05-03 10:45:59 CEST]: >> On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 09:55:31AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: >>> On 02.05.2010 16:45, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: >>>> the Debian Project Leader recently asked DSA in his delegation[1] to >>>> fix a flaw in the current version of the DMUP, the fact that >>>> expulsions are DAM's domain, and not our's. >>> >>> Could you please explain, why this is a flaw? >> >> I think that I should do that, but first let me quote the "Comments" >> section of the delegation text, as it was precisely my attempt at >> explaining that: >> >>> The first proposed limit to what can be changed by DSA is meant to fix >>> a "flaw" in the current text. Decisions over Debian membership are >>> already a responsibility of DAM and, especially considering the need >>> of changing the DMUP, it is better not to mix that responsibility with >>> DSA (as a paranoid mind can imagine DSA changing DMUP *precisely* to >>> have a specific developer expelled ...). Note that this limit means >>> that the current DMUP text is outside the rules and should hence be >>> fixed ASAP. > > Then I think Martin has a bit unfortunately worded his statement - it > sounds a bit that he thinks that expulsion should be DSA's domain. I > hope this is a misunderstanding, and the rest of the thread also looks > like expulsion should still be DAM's domain, account locking should be > DSA's domain. > > Thanks for confirming that we only had a misunderstanding in several > parts here in advance!
So it seems like there are two processes here; expulsion and deletion. Expulsion is a political process, deletion is a technical process. One entity may have authority over the expulsion and another over the deletion. Am I right in assuming that the DAM is in charge of the expulsion process and the DSA is in charge of deletion? Jeremiah
