Le lundi, 17 février 2020, 19.19:02 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit : > >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Charaoui <lavam...@debian.org> writes: > Jerome> Following the announcement of the DebConf20 location, our > Jerome> desire to participate became incompatible with our > Jerome> commitment toward the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions > Jerome> (BDS) campaign launched by Palestinian civil society in > Jerome> 2005. Hence, many active Montreal-based Debian developpers, > Jerome> along with a number of other Debian developpers, have > Jerome> decided not to travel to Israel in August 2020 for > Jerome> DebConf20. > > > I'm quite frustrated, disappointed and angry reading the above. > > I had expressed a fairly strong discomfort with the anti-DC20 messaging > I got from the original contact about Montreal.
To offer some contrast, although I can agree such introduction _could_ have been left out of the announcement email, I find the phrasing to be honest, transparent, and fair: it is not against Debian, not against DebConf, not against the DebConf Committee. It is merely explaining in full sight their reasons to a) not attend DebConf; b) organize that event at that time. Specifically, I find the announcement OK _because_ the event dates do not directly conflict with DebConf20's. > I'm going to take a couple of days to calm down before making any > decisions, but this is not appropriate messaging in an event that Debian > supports. For the record, I disagree that such messaging is inappropriate on debian- devel-announce@, nor as framing for an event "that Debian supports". > In particular, we as a project made a decision about where we were > holding DebConf 20. I'd rephrase this as "the DebConf committee, as DPL delegates, made a decision about by whom DebConf20 was to be organized and where; this decision has not been overriden by a GR" [0,1]. There's nuance away from "we as a project made a decision". > The above messaging comes across as a condemnation of what the project > has decided to do, rather than something that supports our diversity and > compliments DC20 while supporting those who choose not to attend. Sam; I think you're overreacting and would encourage you to re-read the full annoucement mail, and _specifically_ the part that you quoted; it "just" explains why some people from our community cannot consider attending DebConf20, and how they converted this constraint into organizing _another_ Debian gathering, at different dates. Frankly, leaving this reasoning out of the announcement email would have felt disingenuous; as their unease with regards to DebConf20's location was known already. Regards, OdyX [0] https://lists.debian.org/debconf-team/2019/03/msg00021.html [1] Disclaimer: I was a delegate when the decision was taken.
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