On July 1, 2024 6:08:31 PM UTC, Matthias Klose <d...@debian.org> wrote:
>On 29.06.24 20:29, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 1:36:41 PM EDT Soren Stoutner wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:58:09 AM MST Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>>> I would say no. Distutils is going to be with us for quite some time,
>>>> even
>>>> though it's no longer part of the standard distribution.
>>>>
>>>> Scott K
>>>
>>> Can you please elaborate on this some more? As a maintainer of a couple of
>>> packages that use distutils in some fashion I would appreciate understanding
>>> the detail of what is happening with distutils in Debian.
>>
>> I can't say for sure. I am assuming we will keep it in Debian in the short
>> term independent of the Python interpreter packages, since removing it would
>> break so many other packages.
>
>short time meaning, that we will remove it once we are stopping to have 3.11
>as a supported version, which is usually as the final step of a python
>transition. Please note, that python3-distutils has not been available for
>3.12 at any time.
>
>> According to codesearch.d.n over 600 packages reference disutils in their
>> code. That doesn't mean that they all use it, but it's a lot of packages.
>
>this analysis is not good enough. it probably includes all stuff that can be
>used with the distutils included in setuptools.
>
>> I think it's smart to work with upstreams to migrate away from it ASAP, since
>> it isn't going to stick around forever, but I don't know the timeline.
>>
>> Of course, if no one volunteers to do the work to seperate it out of python3-
>> stdlib-extensions, then it might come up pretty soon. Is anyone planning on
>> working on this (I confess I thought someone already had).
>
>it will be removed once we stop having 3.11 as a supported Python version.
Can python3-setuptools Provide: python3-distutils?
That would reduce the number of packages that have to be touched?
Scott K
