On Wednesday, 13. December 2006 16:59, Andreas Huggel wrote: > On Wednesday 13 December 2006 03:35, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > Hi exiv2 developers,
Hi Andreas, thx for all the infos comments below. > > > > the debian-release managers do not accept a library > > transition from exiv2 0.10 to 0.12 as etch is already > > frozen: > > > > > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-extras/2006-December > >/002193.html > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg00004.html > > > > Digikam 0.9.0 rc2 requires exiv2 0.12 for good reasons AFAIU: > > > > http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/177 > > > > With digikam rc1 several people observed crashes with exiv2 0.10 in > > debian too. > > > > > > So as is, rc2 in debian etch is not possible due to missing exiv2 > > 0.12. rc1 crashes and has therefore release critical bugs. So > > only 'save' option would be to go back to digikam 0.8.2. > > > > AFAICS the only way to get 0.9.0 rc2 into debian at this stage: > > > > o why is exiv2 0.10 in etch more risky that an 0.12 upgrade? > > http://www.exiv2.org/changelog.html Mhmm, this lists a handful of crashes and mentions too small 'buffer' as fixed between 0.10 and 0.12. > 0.10 is not an option for digikam 0.9.0 rc2, see below. There is a crash > (exiv2 bug #482) reported by ufraw which was fixed in 0.11 and an open > Debian bug (#396060) for libexiv2-dev from ufraw. The situation may not > be as critical for the other Debian applications which use exiv2, I am > not aware of any exiv2 related problems they have. > > > o how risky is 0.10 -> 0.12 for apps using it > > It involves subtle API changes. Applications need to be tested and need > to be checked to determine if they are affected. I suggest to check > with the application developers. The only feedback I have is an > informal heads-up from the ufraw author 'Subtle' API changes do not sound good short before release :( > > Udi> I noticed that you bumped Exiv2 version to 0.12 > Udi> and tested it (on linux) with UFRaw, and had no problem. Good, so ufraw and digikam are happy with libexiv 0.12 > > > > New features of the library and superior applications using the > > lib are unfortunately not relevant at this stage of the debian > > etch release cycle. So my personal summary is: o follow the 0.8.2 for etch/testing route :( o get libexiv2 0.12 and all apps that depend ASAP into experimental (I'll try to upload backports of them for more testing into my repos) o libexiv2 fixes between 0.10 and 0.12 need a more careful look before etch release If due to last point a 0.10 -> 0.12 migration seem less risky than sticking with 0.10, we have at least 'tested' pkgs in experimental. > > > > Thx for any input, > > Achim > > On a personal note: If digikam 0.9.0 rc2 is ready to be included in > etch, please do not drop it because of this Debian issue. FWIW: I use it since 0.9 beta1. Never regret it. > Seeing their work in a distribution is vital reward and incentive for > developers, recent versions of applications are vital for distros. > digikam users and developers have contributed a lot of time and effort > to improve exiv2 recently, so that it does what they need. Gilles > Caulier, the digikam coordinator, is an active exiv2 developer. > Consequently, many of the recent changes and bugfixes are important for > digikam, some are critical. Yeah, the situation is very unsatisfying for me too. Bad timing :( libexiv2 0.12 and digikam 0.9 final ready some week earlier or etch frozen some week later and there would be no problem at all. > So if digikam 0.9.0 rc2 is ready for etch, there must be a creative way > to include exiv2 0.12 too, maybe so that it can be used by digikam > only. Eg, what about including it in digikam with static linkage, or a > 0.12 package just for digikam in addition to 0.10? I'll try to work other with the others in experimental on a solution. > Let me know if I can help, I am really looking forward to etch with the > latest digikam. Me too. > > Thanks for all your great work on Debian! > > Andreas > (Debian fan, exiv2 author) Thx for your create work too. exiv2 is an important peace of software for everyone, liking free software and digital cameras! Achim -- To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible to the uninitiated. You discover truth everytime you use it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
