Hello Bill, First of all sorry for the late response, I've been very busy with RL lately.
On 03/03/2008, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 11:58:49AM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > > IMHO we can not just 'give up' because there's no common way to do it; if > in > > the feature xdg-utils ships such kind of wrapper su-to-root could simply > > check for it and use it instead. > > > The Exec field of .desktop file is specified byt the XDG menu draft, and > should follow the XDG draft, and not distribution-specific > indiosyncrasy. Discuss the issue on the XDG list. "Exec Program to execute, possibly with arguments."[1] I don't see any problem nor contradiction nor any similar problem/issue raised by simply using su-to-root instead of <insert a custom su wrapper prefix here>su. IMHO it is worst to force people to install a custom su wrapper just because of the .desktop file calls it. > > > > Please also remember that xdg-utils is Priority: optional while debianutils > > is Essential: yes, Priority: required; meaning that if packages were to > > use 'xdg-su-wrapper' they would have to Depend on xdg-utils pulling yet an > > other package. > > > This is a very weak argument: packages that implement XDG menus should > really depend on xdg-utils (but of course not packages simply providing > .desktop files). The proposal also includes .desktop files so I don't really see the point of your statement, specially because I find pointless to depend on xdg-utils just because you ship a given file (which I'm 100% sure the package can perfectly live and work without it). > > > > But other than that what do you think about moving su-to-root to > > debianutils? > > > Given what is su-to-root, I do not think it make sense to have it be > Essential: yes. It is almost never used. Probably because not very much people know about it and because there has been no concensus on what to use as a su wrapper. > > I do not like the idea of moving su-to-root outside of menu source > because there are people using menu outside Debian and they would > be inconvenienced if the tarball does not contain su-to-root anymore. If that's the problem why don't you just keep shipping it in the tarball besides including it in debianutils? > > Cheers, > > -- > Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Imagine a large red swirl here. > [1]http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.1.html Cheers, -- Atomo64 - Raphael Please avoid sending me Word, PowerPoint or Excel attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Say NO to Microsoft Office broken standard. See http://www.noooxml.org/petition -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
