At 11:23 AM -0700 4/30/02, Anne Carasik wrote:
>  > (who would LOVE to move to a _MORE_ secure solution, but is content,
>>  for now, to only allow himself and one other to even have accounts on
>>  the box with the cleartext passwds)
>
>Ugh.. I'd never be content with cleartext passwords, especially given
>how many security solutions are around today.

Falls in the category of "show me another solution that's already on 
every user's system, and I'll happily drink of that fountain 
instead".  I agree with you 100%, but in the environment I'm dealing 
with, folks are reticent to go add additional software to their 
expenses, and (for windows users, which like it or not is still 90+% 
of the userbase) almost any non-M$ solution incurs a cost. :(

I'm not "content" with cleartext passwords, per se, but "making do" 
with such, and strictly limiting access to the box which has them 
visible, so maybe my choice of words was a bit wrong, but I didn't 
really want to have launch into the "windows users are idiots who 
won't get REAL secure stuff, so I have to make do with what little 
security I can coax out of them" diatribe. ;-)

D


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