Greetings, Am Sonntag, 31. Juli 2005 20:37 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: > >> Otherwise I might as well go run Suse or Fedora, or do static > >> Knoppix installs each has one OR the other. > > > > I don't see, why Fedora is more insecure than debian right now. > > Furthermore, if you are up to use linux workstation in a productive > > environment you should consider using Red Hat Enterprise Linux as well. > > Isn't it a very strange position to suggest to decrease Debian's usability > and ask people to go away from Debian if they don't like it? Especially on > Debian lists...
Do you actually think, I decrease the Debian's usability, if I'm trying to put harm from debian users? Furthermore, this is debian-security, not debian-user, debian-kde or whatsoever. It is the nature of this list, to look at issues from a security point of view. > The fact is - currently Debian is a very good choice for a large set of use > cases - including desktop, even for newbies. I cannot disagree more, here. Following the deb-sec discussions for years, debian is highly *dangerous* especially if used by newbies. Mozilla (as often used by newbies), Kernel (essential for every server) and probably samba have (or had - concerning samba) been some important issues for months or years in woody. Thus it is foolish to recommend debian stable to newbies - mostly unaware of what they are doing. > And yes, keeping this situation requires some work. Well, If you really want to keep the situation and want to archive woodies situation - further discussion is hopeless - I guess. Mozilla in debian has been a catastrophe for years. Anyway, if you are up to make debian stable (not debian flavors like ubuntu / Knoppix, etc.) suitable for complete linux newbies, a lot of work will have to be done - assuming it's even possible, and ignoring the probably dramtic side effects this steps might have upon other areas of use. Keep smiling yanosz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

