Greetings, Am Montag, 1. August 2005 11:53 schrieb Bernd Eckenfels: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > If I recommend to use another operating system for a more special > > purpose, what's wrong here? > > It is just the wrong answer in a discussion where we look to improve > Debian. I think it is valid to point to other systems for learning their > weakness or strength, but it is not valid to consider them a as a geeral > solution to a Debian problem.
If you want to improve debian you have to consider, how debian is used. Putting rarely tested upstream packages into stable - as often proposed here - won't raise the quality of debian at all. > Said that, I do stil think that the Ubuntu is better suited for the Deskop > exactly because the Software is fresher. And I do think a faster release > schedule would also benefit Debian. But this won't solve the mozilla case at all. Please consider, that in woody binary incompatibility was reached, before any DSA's came out. Please consider also, that the d-s-team surrendered just a few weeks after sarge was released. > We would concentrate much more on the > overall progress. And the diversion to upstream is much less. Sarge's release happend less than ten weeks ago. I really doubt, that it is possible to have less diversion to the upstream. > Independently from that, I do think Mozillas Bugfix releases should go 1:1 > into the Distribution. As already pointed out by Martin Schulze, there are no clean Mozilla Bugfix releases. > There is no major incompatibility and it is just Looking back at the history of woody, this is not an option and you risk going on to have dangerous mozilla packages in debian for years. > wrong to expect the end user to understand about our backporting, > especially with components which are so prominent. The end user is in charge of it right no. Since debian has been unable to provide secure mozilla packages for two years (more or less), they have to do it already. I really do think, that putting mozilla out of debian is a not good solution, that will satisfy the users needs - but it is the one and only solution I can think of, if mozilla.org is going on the way they have been going for years. I'm going to write an email to Ben Bucksch and ask if he might consider joining this discussion - but anyway I certainly doubt that this is going to make things better. Keep smiling yanosz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
