Hello,

Le 4 oct. 2013 à 13:39, Demetris Demetriou <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi all,
> long time reader, first time responder.

Me too !

> IMHO this backporting, support of version 0.001 etc. etc. should be dropped. 
> Linux is already the mess it is with all the developer fragmentation. Don't 
> like the way the file menu is? Fork the program and take a couple of the best 
> developers with you, teaching them to hate the people they used to work with 
> and you are done. It's the GPL way!
> 
> Security fixes should NOT be patches affecting old code, but instead a 
> security fix found by someone should be pushed upstream to be incorporated in 
> a newer upstream release. I understand the need to support extremely old 
> versions of software. After all it makes a lot more sense to have 10 
> developers patching old code so that person X can run Linux on his old 
> Pentium (1) machine, than to spend the 400 euros to get a brand new laptop 
> that's able to run newer software versions. Never mind the used computers 
> available at better prices. Spending your money is always a bad thing, 
> therefore developers should invest their time scratching their head on how to 
> support your outdated software. Do I really need a sarcasm disclaimer in this 
> post? I guess so, since this IS the facebook generation. This paragraph is 
> pure sarcasm. In no way should developers be forced to maintain old code.
> 
> (…)

I think ArchLinux is made for you ! :)


About the initial topic, the problem i see is that Debian may operate both as a 
desktop or as a server (among other usages), and people usually don't have the 
same needs for both usages :
* Most of people i know who use Debian as a desktop use the testing 
repositories. They want to be up to date with newest versions. (For this usage, 
i personally prefer a Ubuntu desktop)
* Most of people i know (me either) who use Debian as a server use the stable 
repositories. They want to have a secure, stable, and almost deterministic 
system.
For my Debian servers, i personally don't want to have backports 
pre-configured, because i'm ok with old but very-stable versions of apache, 
php, mysql, unbound, nsd, postfix, dovecot and so on. And i know it won't break 
nor change its behavior all along the life of the distribution.

I think the reflexion about this topic should consider these distinct usages.

Best regards.
Emmanuel Thierry


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