> Anyone know of a CDE/Motif like window manager for Debian?
> I've gotten used to my CDE desktop at work.

I hope that I don't get flamed too much for the attachments to this
email, but they are not large. They snow a screen capture of my fvwm2.

Perhaps many people don't know that fvwm2 can be set up in various ways.

Stephen - you didn't say what features of CDE you like. I'm guessing
that it's the "dashboard" style and perhaps the desktop buttons for
switching destops and the pop-up menus.

This is what my fvwm2 setup looked like a year ago. I've rearranged it a
bit since then. The clock is now half the size and the load meter is at
the right side.

I use CDE at work too, but much prefer the way that fvwm2 shows the
shape and titles of each window in the pager. I have 24 desktops at
home, and rarely have more than one window per desktop.

I don't like icons on my dashboard; they seem a waste of space to me.

The labels such as "Hosts", "Apps", etc are pop-up menus with mini-icons
if you like them.

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Here is my buttonbar from fvwm2. I'm still working on it.
I can't capture the pop-up menus because they go away when you
click anything else. They mostly came from the slackware fvwm
menus. The default buttonbar looks fancier because
it has some icons on it, but mine is more functional. The clock
doesn't come with debian.

The jpg file is small, so I've attached it in two different ways.

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