Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 10:42:17AM +0200, Andreas Rabus wrote:
I've only been using Linux since Feb. , so at the local LUG I usually just listen to the discussions and take in as much as I can. The people there (LUG) are about 80% RedHat users with the rest divided btw SuSe and Mandrake, to my knowlege I'm the _only_ Debian user. When I querried the group about Debian back in Feb. they all said it was "too hard","impossible to install", "definately NOT for newbies" . "insert your derogitory remark here" . So, when at the last meeting, people where buzzing about their personal trial and tribulations upgrading to RH 6.2 and someone asked me what I did (with regard to the upgrade ) and I told them: "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" and all those people who gave me kurt " I don't know I use RH" answers to my questions in the past, and admonished me to install RH instead of working out the "newbie blues" with Debian, just stood there slack-jawed, and I didn't say a word. Truly, the people of Debian are to be commended , their product is decidedly first rate! Later, Dave > > > > - Hard to build. There is a large doc about this task , but it still > > takes a long time to learn. > > so does system administration for *nix. as it should be, learning > takes time and is something no one should ever shy away from. > > while learning to admin NT is faster, you don't really end up learning > to do much other then reboot and reinstall till it works. > > programming also takes time to learn, the more time you take to learn > the better the results. > > the thing with RPM, while it may be easier for any monkey with a > keyboard to make a .rpm, those .rpms often have about as much quality > as you could expect from something made by a monkey. when i used > redhat i encounted many very broken .rpms, some of which literally > damaged my system. > > personally i would prefer to build a package from source and install > it in /usr/local/ then to get some easy to install but very broken > .rpm made by someone who does not really have a clue how to properly > build packages. > > I also believe that packaging systems lacking a unified, and certified > set of developers (like the debian project itself is) to make policy > compliant packages will continue to be the miserable mess that > redhat.com/contrib/ is. > > IMO upstream authors should not be making .debs or .rpms unless they > are prepared to truely learn how its done and make policy compliant > packages, if they cannot or will not spend the time learning the art > of packaging then they should leave it to someone who can. > > -- > Ethan Benson > http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ > > > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature