Michiel Meeuwissen wrote: > > Ragga Muffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrotes: > > Daniel Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Michiel Meeuwissen wrote: > > > > It seems that a way to accomplish this is running apt-get upgrade, > > > > netsape and seti at the same time, in my computer (potato, PIII 500 64 > > > > Mb). > > > > > > On Netscape's webpage they strongly recommend at least 64 Mb of RAM for > > > use of Netscape with Linux. So if you run Netscape AND another > > > resource-eating program on a 64 Mb machine, you can expect high loads, at > > > least at startup. > > > > True in a sense, but I can use Nscape 4.5 and plenty of apps including > > dselect/apt on a Cyrix166 with 32Mb. > > No. There's something REALLY weird if Michiel bogs his PIII-500/64Mb > > with that... > > > > > Simpler solution: Don't start Netscape if you don't really, really need > > > it. > > I never really, really need it, but well, it's simply handy to have it > running. > > > > > If you don't use it, it'll be swapped to disk, so that's not really > > a solution, just a little band-aid. > > > > Michiel, post some more details here, like kernel version, swap-size, > > window/desktop manager etc. > > > > I strongly suspect some hardware/driver problem here. > > kernel: Linux warande1124 2.2.14 #1 Sat Jan 29 10:53:47 CET 2000 i686 unknown > swap-size: /dev/hda3 332 364 133056 82 Linux swap > window manager: fvwm > X: XF86_Mach64 > > I'm pretty sure that it is a matter of memory exhaustion. Netscape leaks > memory until memory + swap are full, and everything gets terribly slow. I > certainly does not leak memory always, but I didn't found out yet what I > have to to to let it start Perhaps it has to do with other runing programs > as well. > > Anyhow, I know that netscape is buggy, and I only want that it does not hang > the whole system in such a case. > > I added a line > * hard rss 10000 > > to /etc/security/limits.conf, but I've no clear understanding what it means. > If I make '10000' very small, like '10' or so, then I can't do much (e.g. > man won't work anymore), so I have the impression that it does something. > But would it do anything to a program like netscape as well? > > greetings, > > Michiel > > -- > % Michiel Meeuwissen > % [EMAIL PROTECTED] > % http://www.purl.org/NET/mihxil/ > % Vidu ankaux: http://www.uea.org/katalogo > Since I upgraded to NS4.72, I've had no problems with hangs or memory leaks from Netscape. When I was running 4.5 back on my old 486/100(50Mb) it would be very unstable, eat memory, all the stuff you're describing. The upgrade fixed it :-) Catch my drift? -maybe it would be easier to download and install a more stable version, than experimenting with limiting ressources and all sorts of trickery. Netscape is (was) known to be very unstable and eat ram. Look at the list a year ago, you will find lots of ref's to this subject... Running smooth on my PII350/128Mb/potato/2.2.14/fvwm/mach64. hth Vitux
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