Steve Lamb wrote: >Kent West wrote: > > >>So, I'm confused. Are you saying that the logging capability of sudo >>provides a benefit on a single-user machine (my claim), or not (the >>original claim)? >> >> > > I pointed out that sudo provides logging. You got into the semantics of >logging "Ah-HA, you said only who and what, but it also includes WHEN!" My >original point regardless of which W word attached to it is that sudo provides >logging of whom did what. In a single-user machine that is known. > > I'm still confused.
The original claim was that sudo provides no benefit on a single-user machine. We both seem to agree that sudo provides logging. You claim that you don't need logging on a single-user machine, because you know what you (the single-user admin) did when, whereas I claim that I find it useful to have a record of what I've done when. So, are you saying the logging provided by sudo on a single-user machine is or is not a benefit? > Let's see.... Only I have access to root. It must've been... Kernel >Kustard in /dev/audio with gcc that changed my apache.conf file! Nope, sorry, >I know whom did it... ME. I know what I did. I was there doing it! I don't >need logging to tell me that! > > Oh, you're saying that the logging provided by sudo on a single-user machine is not a benefit. Okay, I can see that you don't find benefit in using sudo. I still disagree with the global claim (which is what this entire thread has been about) that there is "*NO* benefit" to using sudo on a single-user machine. >>However, if one >>person, anywhere, finds sudo to be of benefit on a single-user machine, >>then the claim that there is "*NO* benefit of sudo" is simply incorrect. >>(I myself am such a person, so this is not just a hypothetical possibility.) >> >> > > Just becaonse one person finds benefit doesn't mean the benefit is real, >tangible and generally applicable. > > I don't believe I ever said the benefit was generally applicable. What I said is that the claim that there is "*NO* benefit" to using sudo on a single-user machine is incorrect. If you are correct that any perceived benefits are not real and tangible, then the claim that there is no benefit to using sudo on a single-user machine is correct. I believe there are tangible benefits to using sudo on a single-user machine. You disagree. It seems to me to be a matter of opinion. If so, then the claim that there is "*NO* benefit" of using sudo on a single-user machine is not a fact, but is an opinion. So perhaps I was wrong to say that the claim is incorrect; I should have said that it's not factual. -- Kent West Technology Support /A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]